Sin nature

[houston]

Originally Posted by mfblume

People can have faith for God to use them and not be living right. The gifts are without repentance. God does not revoke a gift He gives, which means they can live in sin and still operate in gifts. Primarily, the key is that the word teaches the gifts are without repentance.

Ah. Gotcha. When I'm not living right I don't have much faith. This is probably a blessing for me.

[Arphaxad]

So did sin enter into the world because of Adam's disobediance, or was it sin that caused Adam to be disobediant?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

So did sin enter into the world because of Adam's disobediance, or was it sin that caused Adam to be disobediant?

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

Seems to say one man's disobedience brought sin into the world.

[mfblume]

Trouvere, you fled this thread and never came back. Still waiting for your answers to my responses to you.

Originally Posted by mfblume

And what about Jesus? Did Jesus have no different nature than we have, as though we do not have a sin nature? Could Jesus say the same thing Paul did about himself?

"Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me."

If do not believe Jesus could say these things about himself, then why could Paul? Obviously Jesus did not have the propensity to sin that we have. But if man has no sin nature, then Jesus would say the same thing about Himself that Paul said.

Any way we slice it, Jesus had to be able to say the same thing Paul said if there is no sin nature issue involved in us.