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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't know how you can say, especially, the point in bold when it's been stated a million times that women in the rice fields of China have always worn them.
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Perhaps you did not read what I said carefully enough
Second nobody is saying women everywhere have worn them for a long time, some time or at some point in antiquity.
I purposely made that word in RED color so you would not miss it this time
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I'm not sure I agree with you here, because the origins did start with the men, as you stated - "men girded their loins."
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First of all that it started exclusively with men, when I quoted a source saying both men and women wore them where they seemed to have originated, is unsubstantiated
Second, that if started with men is irrelevant. Pants started with pagans...are you going to say only pagans can wear them?
"Men girding their loins" was not pants. Pants were never at any time legislated in scriptures anywhere, ever. Pants were a practical application for men just as short skirts on roman centurions were
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So, in that respect, I think in ancient antiquity, it already started to be a man's garment which developed into, as you say, recently universal.
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Recently universal but as it has been proven in antiquities while men began to wear pants, because they did not always wear them, so did women in some areas