PCI lite

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I need a PCI person to exegisis, or whatever its called, Acts 2:38 for me please

I'm not pci, but the main argument against acts 2:38 is that the greek word for "remission" is the same greek word for "forgiveness" and something about the word "for" in greek; So acts 2:38 could read. repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of jesus christ "because of the forgiveness" of your sins. That is the whole argument in a nutshell.

the DA's office has several threads with this theme, even on the first page. DA went by sdg and daII and is probably lulu.

[Falla39]

These were the instructions given by Jesus to his disciples just prior to his ascension.

Luke 24:44-53
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.

51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

53 And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.

Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Acts 2:38-41
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

41Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:


Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

To me, it is just simpler to obey what Jesus said than arge. I want that same Spirit that raised Jesus Christ from the dead, to dwell in me.

Falla39

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Falla39

These were the instructions given by Jesus to his disciples just prior to his ascension.

Luke 24:44-53
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

48 And ye are witnesses of these things.

49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.

51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

53 And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.

Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.


Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

To me, it is just simpler to obey what Jesus said than arge. I want that same Spirit that raised Jesus Christ from the dead, to dwell in me.

Falla39

sis falla, i don't disagree with your post, the problem is that many christians including some apostolics believe they have the spirit of god dwelling in them even though they have not spoken in tongues as the spirit gives the utterance.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I'm not pci, but the main argument against acts 2:38 is that the greek word for "remission" is the same greek word for "forgiveness" and something about the word "for" in greek; So acts 2:38 could read. repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of jesus christ "because of the forgiveness" of your sins. That is the whole argument in a nutshell.

the DA's office has several threads with this theme, even on the first page. DA went by sdg and daII and is probably lulu.

poor lu lu daniel he cant even fire back !!

[houston]

amanah,

it depends on what the meaning of "eis" is!!

[mrnbcox]

Nobody is saved without repenting, being baptized in Jesus Name & receiving the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues. Just doing one or 2 of the above without completing all 3 will not save you.

Nobody will stay saved without then obeying God's commandments of living a Godly Seperated life & tryin to reach others.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by mrnbcox

Nobody is saved without repenting, being baptized in Jesus Name & receiving the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues. Just doing one or 2 of the above without completing all 3 will not save you.

Nobody will stay saved without then obeying God's commandments of living a Godly Seperated life & tryin to reach others.

Ok, I think that shows where you are at.

Of course that does nothing to address the thread and it's initial questions...

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Amanah

are TF Tenney and TD Jakes one steppers, my mind is reeling atm.

Generally speaking, they probably would be considered so, though I don't know of either of them using that phrase specifically to describe themselves. They do fellowship with other "Spirit filled" believers outside of the Oneness ranks, thus I would lump them into that group ("One Steppers").

As to "PCI Lite" - who said that and in what context? Many members within the PCI ranks (and most within the PAJC, for that matter) held to a "Light Doctrine."

"PCI LITE" sounds like a rip on that theme, something pejorative that may not have been intended to even have a specific meaning.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Timmy

You do not find Ferd. Ferd finds you.

bwahahaha

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Generally speaking, they probably would be considered so, though I don't know of either of them using that phrase specifically to describe themselves. They do fellowship with other "Spirit filled" believers outside of the Oneness ranks, thus I would lump them into that group ("One Steppers").

As to "PCI Lite" - who said that and in what context? Many members within the PCI ranks (and most within the PAJC, for that matter) held to a "Light Doctrine."

"PCI LITE" sounds like a rip on that theme, something pejorative that may not have been intended to even have a specific meaning.

I had not thought of that.

It's possible I suppose, but it does seem like I heard the term used here on AFF to describe churches like Nashville's Christ Church.

They would baptise in Jesus Name and accept speaking in tongues, but would not require re-baptism or say one does not have the Spirit if they do not speak in tongues. I think this would be a bit more liberal than the PCI position of bygone years.

Whether that is appalling or appealing is of course the question.