Racists

Sandra79 · #1 09-18-2011, 11:56 PM

If u was going to a church that u was finding out that several people there was racist would u continue to go? It is eating me alive Im tryin to hold off till my move, due to there are no perfect churches out there and certainly none in my area I could go to anyways. Although my move isnt going to be for another three yrs. It really makes me not want to go anywhere. Plus im looking to adopt a child thru foster care in the next yr or less. My dream is to adopt outside my race. I love diversity!!! Wonder how well this would be taken at my church...

seekerman · #2 09-19-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandra79

If u was going to a church that u was finding out that several people there was racist would u continue to go? It is eating me alive Im tryin to hold off till my move, due to there are no perfect churches out there and certainly none in my area I could go to anyways. Although my move isnt going to be for another three yrs. It really makes me not want to go anywhere. Plus im looking to adopt a child thru foster care in the next yr or less. My dream is to adopt outside my race. I love diversity!!! Wonder how well this would be taken at my church...

Are you attending a black church? I find them, generally speaking, to be the most racist churchgoing folks in the world. Several years ago I heard T.D. Jakes speaking on television and he was telling his congregation to do business with black businesses. I thought, what if a white minister on tv would say, do business with white businesses. They'd not be in that network the next week, I guarantee you.

Sandra79 · #3 09-19-2011, 12:08 AM

No sir, its completely white. UNFORTUNALLY!!! I believe we would have sum more exciting services if black was there. Most the ppl are from the south that goes there if that explains a lot. And im wanting to move south... Wow so much to think about!!!

Dedicated Mind · #4 09-19-2011, 01:29 AM

there are racists in both black and white churches. As far as your church going, it depends on the leadership. Does the leadership welcome and encourage diversity or do they condone and tolerate racism. I could tolerate a few rotten apples in the congregation but not from the leadership.

Amanah · #5 09-19-2011, 04:24 AM

you are missing out on so much if you are not attending a multicultural church.

if your choir can't sway and sing at the same time,
you just might be in an all white church

if none of the sisters wear hats or scarves on their heads,
you just might be in an all white church

if there is no Jamaican food at the church picnic,
you just might be in an all white church

you need to come live in the south

kclee4jc · #6 09-19-2011, 04:47 AM

Our church used to be all white. We now have one black brother! When he first started coming, my pastor got word that someone had made some kind of racist remark. He waited till it was a service when our black bro was not there and he laid downt he law. He basically told us that if anyone had a problem with different races attending our church we needed to repent or leave. It was awesome! The area we live in has very little ethnic diversity. My pastor was praying God to send people of different ethnicities, so this really was a miracle. He wasn't going to let some sour puss destroy a soul. I would suggest you talk to your pastor and express your concerns to him. You'll know what to do after that.

Digging4Truth · #7 09-19-2011, 07:00 AM

What did these people do to be deemed racists?

And... no ma'am... the fact that most of the people are from the south doesn't "explain a lot". That would be prejudiced if ones place of birth gave me an assumption of their beliefs & values.

MissBrattified · #8 09-19-2011, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandra79

If u was going to a church that u was finding out that several people there was racist would u continue to go? It is eating me alive Im tryin to hold off till my move, due to there are no perfect churches out there and certainly none in my area I could go to anyways. Although my move isnt going to be for another three yrs. It really makes me not want to go anywhere. Plus im looking to adopt a child thru foster care in the next yr or less. My dream is to adopt outside my race. I love diversity!!! Wonder how well this would be taken at my church...

I think it's a bad idea to base whether or not you attend a church by the perfection of the other members. e.g., If you like the assembly in general and you like the church leadership, ignore the idiots. There will always be people who attend churches that you dislike. If they're racists, then they NEED to be there.

IMO, when someone says something racist, the best thing to do is speak up. Nothing cows a racist quicker than having someone call them on their views. Don't be ugly, because that puts you on the same level. You can say something like, "Oh...do you dislike black people?" while looking sincerely puzzled. Or, "One of my best friends is Hispanic...they aren't like *that* at all!" Etc. Speak up in defense of your views and presumably your friends.

And understand this: There are different types of racism, although I agree that it's all bad. There are people who have been brought up in certain cultures where ignorance abounds and they really don't know any better. Be kind to them and educate them as much as you can. Then there are people who are truly ungodly and malicious. They say the most vicious and hateful things about people who don't share their skin color. Avoid them, and if they ask you why, tell them. Bluntly.

Jermyn Davidson · #9 09-19-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Are you attending a black church? I find them, generally speaking, to be the most racist churchgoing folks in the world. Several years ago I heard T.D. Jakes speaking on television and he was telling his congregation to do business with black businesses. I thought, what if a white minister on tv would say, do business with white businesses. They'd not be in that network the next week, I guarantee you.

There is a completely different dynamic in that statement that, when mentioned alone, the complete picture is not presented.

Doing business with minority-owned businesses helps to keep these (usually smaller businesses) alive-- thus helping the entire community, blacks and those who live with them and around them.

If small businesses thrive it is good for the local, state and national economy.

There is an unspoken bias within some circles of the black community that if you do business with a black person, you can't trust them, their products are defective, their prices are higher, blah, blah, and blah. He was speaking against that notion as well.

Given the congreagation population, the economic history (which is INDEED tied to their race) and location of Pastor Jakes' church, the statement you mentioned is hardly racist.

MissBrattified · #10 09-19-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

Are you attending a black church? I find them, generally speaking, to be the most racist churchgoing folks in the world. Several years ago I heard T.D. Jakes speaking on television and he was telling his congregation to do business with black businesses. I thought, what if a white minister on tv would say, do business with white businesses. They'd not be in that network the next week, I guarantee you.

Weird, because I've felt exactly the opposite. Every time I've visited a black church, I've been warmly welcomed and I felt like part of the group. Probably moreso than when I've visited "white" churches for the first time. Generally speaking, diverse or ethnic churches just seem friendlier. (Is that a racist remark?

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