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Old 09-16-2011, 10:50 PM
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Re: Holiness unto the Lord written on Jewelry?

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So true. And to allow him on the platform in sandals?? Are you kidding me? That church would become the laughing stock of Pentecost! Also, he did not seem very adept at taking up offerings. I guess he did not want to have his people be blessed.
He probably didn't cut his toe nails either.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:03 AM
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Re: Holiness unto the Lord written on Jewelry?

It seems clear to me from this this scripture alone, though there are others, that the wearing of gold is not inherently evil in all cases. It misuse and abuse is what is wrong. When people are inflated with pride or use it to bring inordinate attention to themselves or for the purposes of seduction, then jewelry becomes a sin.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:21 AM
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It seems clear to me from this this scripture alone, though there are others, that the wearing of gold is not inherently evil in all cases. It misuse and abuse is what is wrong. When people are inflated with pride or use it to bring inordinate attention to themselves or for the purposes of seduction, then jewelry becomes a sin.
I would say is NEVER inherently evil.
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I would say is NEVER inherently evil.
My point exactly. All my life I have been given the message that any gems or shiny metals on the body (hair exempt at times) is always evil and in defiance to God's direct wishes.

Someone else brought up the story of the Israelites being forced to ingest the gold from the Golden calf. Again, that story was used to show that all gold, which is a type of divinity, should be in the inside not the outside. However, God's people continued to wear jewelry of all kinds, including the priests at God's command! Now I'm sure that ingesting the gold had nothing to do with the evils of jewelry, but God's abhorrence of false gods.
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Re: Holiness unto the Lord written on Jewelry?

The whole point of "not with broided hair or jewels or gold" actually ties into with the "hair/covering" chapter of 1Cor

It's odd that the UPC studied the braided hair stuff out but not fully. Women in Roman/Greek societies wore their hair very long except for temple prostitutes. They were also fond of elaborate weaves and braiding involving precious jewels or metals.

Truely, to the woman then her hair was her pride (Glory)
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Re: Holiness unto the Lord written on Jewelry?

I have found is completely asinine that THIS is perfectly acceptable at a typical UPC camp meeting -and in fact expected.



Yet, THIS isn't.


Which one of the above is parading around screaming "Look at me! Look at me!"?

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Old 09-19-2011, 01:03 PM
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Re: Holiness unto the Lord written on Jewelry?

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I have found is completely asinine that THIS is perfectly acceptable at a typical UPC camp meeting -and in fact expected.



Yet, THIS isn't.


Which one of the above is parading around screaming "Look at me! Look at me!"?
I guess the better question is, "Which would I rather look at?"

Seriously though, many have missed the point completely. They vilify all jewelry (except in the hair curiously enough), yet have no justify completely drawing all sorts of attention to themselves by costly, trendy (and at times just really odd) clothing. I would rather see that meek and quiet spirit the God so wants to see.

As for the inconsistency, man made doctrines are always rife with them. They are like shifting sand, as Christ declared.
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:17 PM
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Re: Holiness unto the Lord written on Jewelry?

I've been raised around conservatives all my life and have never found anyone who can explain the inconsistency of the "hair exemption". Especially since hair is the only actual body part mentioned in the NT when it comes to bejeweling and bedecking. Plastic "Live Strong" bracelets get you banned from ministry, but a hair full of feathers, gold, gems, and other ornamentation gets oohs and ahhs at the conservative bastions like the WPF sponsored Peak conference.

It is incomprehensible. People from the outside are supposed to just swallow this convoluted theology or they are "not hungry enough"! The arrogance is ASTOUNDING!!!
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:19 PM
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Re: Holiness unto the Lord written on Jewelry?

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I have found is completely asinine that THIS is perfectly acceptable at a typical UPC camp meeting -and in fact expected.



Yet, THIS isn't.


Which one of the above is parading around screaming "Look at me! Look at me!"?
RW...STOP!!!!! Stop, because you are making too much sense!

MissB hit on it earlier too. Let's be honest though...in the oneness movement the only "real" jewelry are on the left hands of the married ladies and on the wrist of the men preaching. Basically no other jewlery is real...oneness people are too chap or can't afford it, but they sure want you to think they can afford a 50k tiara or 5k earings that are used as a pin on a blouse.
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