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Old 09-25-2011, 09:39 PM
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:47 PM
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Make that 4! Bro Devito and I have always been tight.
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:54 PM
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NOT ONE person is saved in this dispensation with obeying Acts 2:38.
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Old 09-25-2011, 09:57 PM
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NOT ONE person is saved in this dispensation with obeying Acts 2:38.
I would agree that not one person is saved "in this dispensation" without Jesus.
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:05 PM
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Well, there are various interpretations of "Acts 2:38" as we well know...

And what about babies and children who die...?

In fact there are more unborn children dying than all Oneness Pentecostals put together... hmmmm.
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Old 09-25-2011, 10:10 PM
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Well, there are various interpretations of "Acts 2:38" as we well know...

And what about babies and children who die...?

In fact there are more unborn children dying than all Oneness Pentecostals put together... hmmmm.
You know I am not speaking of babies they have no choice.+
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Old 09-26-2011, 04:38 AM
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NOT ONE person is saved in this dispensation with obeying Acts 2:38.
without? ps i like bro E,sounds like a good man !
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:17 AM
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You know I am not speaking of babies they have no choice.+
You are right. I do know... but it does tell us something about the nature of God does it not? He looks on the the thoughts and intents of the heart...
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:43 AM
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The last few pages of this thread are very interesting to me...mostly because as of late I have been questioning myself on issues of family that has passed without the ACTS 2:38 response. I can't begin to tell you the grief and self loathing that I have been through personally when I have tried at earnest to get them to see what I have been taught is the plan of salvation as they lay sick in bed about to die.

On two occasions I have tried, bible in hand and walked away discouraged and wondering what I may have done or not done right. The last death in my family was in April and was my Grandmother. She was raised Catholic and in her later years was in an Episcapal church. I went to see her as she lay in bed with cancer, with my mother and my Grandfather at her side. I told her I loved her, spent time with her, tried to feel out what the Lord would have me do.

Needless to say she passed, I did not baptize her, and to my knowlege she never spoke with tongues. I have spent alot of time, off and on, since then questioning myself yet again. It is tormenting, that is for sure. As i type this we have another family member who once again is layed up with cancer and it is in his throat and he is unable to speak.

The point I am getting at is that I can relate on multiple levels with the questions concerning family that has passed without the ACTS 2:38 experience, and yes I have wondered, been frustrated, and even angry at myself. You see i was always taught that it is up to us to reach them, and if we don't it, their blood is on our hands...that is how I was taught. I was also taught that if God called you to preach and at some point you decided not to, you were going to Hell.

Just being a little transparent...I have a feeling I am not the only one who was taught these things.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:51 AM
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You are right. I do know... but it does tell us something about the nature of God does it not? He looks on the the thoughts and intents of the heart...
Babies have no intents nor choice.
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