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Old 10-02-2011, 11:06 PM
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?

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Old 10-03-2011, 01:26 AM
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I think that ALL of the Trinitarian believers I know believe this way.

They point to the baptism of Jesus as irrefutable Bible evidence for their doctrine-- an instance where all Three are manifested.
Three PERSONS not "Three similtaneous MODES OF existence"

Modes is...Modalism

Persons is...Trinitarianism
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:34 AM
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This guy lost his train of thought.
No, that is how he does it, there are other vids with the same formula
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:36 AM
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I have mentioned that they seem to be intransition into a better understanding of Acts 2:38 baptism. Im not saying they believe in Oneness. I was baptized in Jesus name before I came into the full revelation of who Jesus is myself. And yes my baptism and the baptism you see here are completely valid IMO.

If your Assembly Of God baptizes this way good for them.
I hope that you are right and that they are indeed being led into the fulness of truth. Still, if i had oppurtunity to rebaptize these folks with revelation of the necessity of baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, I most certainly would do it.
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:35 AM
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I hope that you are right and that they are indeed being led into the fulness of truth. Still, if i had oppurtunity to rebaptize these folks with revelation of the necessity of baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, I most certainly would do it.
So, there is yet an another "revelation"? Even beyond receiving Jesus and baptism in His name?
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I hope that you are right and that they are indeed being led into the fulness of truth. Still, if i had oppurtunity to rebaptize these folks with revelation of the necessity of baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, I most certainly would do it.
Well would you say for them to be baptized in the name of Jesus is more truth than in the titles?

When I baptize many times I say in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost into the name of Jesus or Yeshua. In my thinking that is explaining what the name is.

I rejoice in each step, small as it may sometimes be into more truth.

Oh that Apostolics were open to more truth! They have basically sit on Acts 2:38 for 97 years and went no further.
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?

the guy in the utube is baptizing using scripture
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Re: You think Trinitarians accept you?

as a generalization:

I think the problems I see is that if you go UC, no one can get good enough to get to heaven.

If you stop at repentance, all the walls come down and there is no place left to stand.

I'm thinking the truth has got to be somewhere in between the two.
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Also, while we know Father and Son communicated I am not so sure I would say the Holy Spirit related/felt/communicated with, or apart from the Father and Son.
Well, we know from Scripture that the Holy Spirit intercedes for us. Who else would his intercessions be directed to? This seems like communication among members of the Trinity.

Also, the Holy Spirit can be grieved when we sin. That is a feeling or emotion.
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They have a problem with Pentecostals in general or anyone that is not in the same belief system they are in. They are elitist, sectarian, judgmental and for the most part very anti-pentecostal of any kind.
This is simply not true. For example, The Gospel Coalition, probably the largest and most influential of the groups, regularly fellowships with Pentecostals/Charismatics.

Good grief, even some of the Gospel Coalition council members are self-described charismatics (i.e. Matt Chandler, DA Carson, Mark Driscoll, Joshua Harris, CJ Mahaney).
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