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10-13-2011, 01:50 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
We had an "evangelist" come to church, climb the pulpit and leap off..I had a hard time taking him seriouslhy after that. He came back and we changed pulpits, so this time he could not do his leaping act. So he chose instead to speak in tongues a lot and do little "spirit fillled" jigs from time to time...although a lot of people buy that baloney I take it as an insult to my intelligence. Marjoe had a better schtick than that
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10-13-2011, 03:01 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Again I am saying with your logic all behavior is correct in preaching if there is one mentally handicapped person in the world who will respond to some absurdity. No I do not think preachers should resort to idiocy in the pulpit to somehow reach some wacko it will appeal to. Common sense has to prevail and common sense tells me there is no logical or biblical precedent for turning somersaults and screaming during a sermon. Absolutely no Biblical precedent for that. I don't recall Jesus doing that during the sermon on the mount or any other time during his ministry nor do we have any record in Acts or the epistles of the Apostles acting like idiots.
Have you considered how many people would be turned off by stupid behavior and perhaps never darken the door of a pentecostal church again? I bet there are a lot more of those than the wackos who would be "reached" by those somersaults.
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I believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be the power of God unto salvation and it doesn't need my "help" or a performance or a gimmick to do the job its designed to do. I just need to declare it, communicate it in love and humility and leave the saving to the only One who can redeem.
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10-13-2011, 04:07 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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I believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be the power of God unto salvation and it doesn't need my "help" or a performance or a gimmick to do the job its designed to do. I just need to declare it, communicate it in love and humility and leave the saving to the only One who can redeem.
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With thoughts like that no wonder you didn't feel at home and left the Mothership!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-13-2011, 04:08 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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I sprained my ankle once when I was preaching. Jumped off the alter because I was so pumped with adrenalin. lol I don't do that anymore. 
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Ouch!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-13-2011, 04:31 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
I sprained my ankle once when I was preaching. Jumped off the alter because I was so pumped with adrenalin. lol I don't do that anymore. 
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I have seen enough funny stuff happen in church while nothing emotional was happening...but this is interesting. Did you stop preaching? My pastor in TN once picked up a mic stand to bang against the platform to make a sound while making a point. The mic stand pinched his hand bad and it started bleeding bad, but like the trooper he is he kept preaching.
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10-13-2011, 04:43 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
I do think Balance is a good word...
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10-13-2011, 04:52 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Well, it is the foolishness of preaching that................
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foolishness OF preaching... not FOOLISH preaching
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10-13-2011, 05:10 PM
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Re: Matt Maddix
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I do think Balance is a good word...
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Particularly if you are doing somersaults!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-13-2011, 05:15 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
I have seen enough funny stuff happen in church while nothing emotional was happening...but this is interesting. Did you stop preaching? My pastor in TN once picked up a mic stand to bang against the platform to make a sound while making a point. The mic stand pinched his hand bad and it started bleeding bad, but like the trooper he is he kept preaching.
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LOL! Well, I limped back to the pulpit as inconspicuous as I could and kept on preaching. I didn't move around after that. My ankle was the size of a softball that night. That was the first and the last time I jumped off any alters.
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10-13-2011, 05:17 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Matt Maddix
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Originally Posted by houston
foolishness OF preaching... not FOOLISH preaching 
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Your right; however the end result is what matters most. MM has led alot of people to Christ.
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