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10-23-2011, 09:53 AM
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Re: Helltruth.com
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
I could never understand why God would send someone to hell for an ageless amount of time for only a lifetime worth of sin.
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Let's apply that rational to our secular system. Someone robs a bank and in the process murders 2 people. It took him 30 min. So let's incarcerate him for 30 min
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-23-2011, 09:54 AM
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Re: Helltruth.com
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
I believe the wicked will be destroyed in the Lake of Fire. That does not take away the fear of God. In the very context of Jesus teaching that the souls of the wicked shall be destroyed in Gehenna he is telling us we ought to fear God.
10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28
So Jesus taught to fear God. He also taught souls will be destroyed just like bodies-IN HELL.
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This is very much more likely than the Universal Reconcilliation view
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-23-2011, 09:55 AM
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Re: Helltruth.com
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
the idea that hell is for immortal souls that were wicked is extra-biblical. that is why the soul that sinneth shall DIE.
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Death means the cessation of physical life. The other way Death is used is a spiritual disconnection from God
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-23-2011, 09:56 AM
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Re: Helltruth.com
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I'm beginning to wonder how many of you are actually looking to the website. lol
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Better yet, learn it yourself and make the arguments here and discuss them with us
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-23-2011, 09:56 AM
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Re: Helltruth.com
An eternal injustice against the Holy One deems an eternal separation from God. You demean the severity of sin by making the judgment against it total destruction instead of total damnation as we deserve.
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And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:10-15)
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Folks, the Bible does not lie. Hell is eternal, it is real, and all who are not in Christ shall be there day and night for all eternity. Annihilationism is a doctrine which demeans the truth about sin, the holiness of God, and the righteousness of His judgment.
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10-23-2011, 09:58 AM
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Re: Helltruth.com
But is Hell literally an area? a Location? Or is it a condition? A quality? A state of being?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-23-2011, 03:14 PM
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Re: Helltruth.com
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional
An eternal injustice against the Holy One deems an eternal separation from God. You demean the severity of sin by making the judgment against it total destruction instead of total damnation as we deserve.
Folks, the Bible does not lie. Hell is eternal, it is real, and all who are not in Christ shall be there day and night for all eternity. Annihilationism is a doctrine which demeans the truth about sin, the holiness of God, and the righteousness of His judgment.
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Paul was an apostle. He knew the truth of Christs foundation teachings.
Not even one time did he mention anyone burning for eternity. Nope. Not one time. My Pastor told me this many years ago and at first I didnt believe him. I went about to prove him wrong. He was right.
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10-23-2011, 04:24 PM
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Loving God, His Word, His Name
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Re: Helltruth.com
But, Revelation did teach it! I proved it clearly and concisely. And even posted the scripture. Your pastor was dead wrong if he was/is an annihilationist. Scripture proves this heresy wrong.
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10-23-2011, 05:56 PM
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Re: Helltruth.com
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But, Revelation did teach it! I proved it clearly and concisely. And even posted the scripture. Your pastor was dead wrong if he was/is an annihilationist. Scripture proves this heresy wrong.
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You'll change your mind on this one too, someday.
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10-23-2011, 06:05 PM
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Re: Helltruth.com
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
You'll change your mind on this one too, someday.
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Hey FAL! Legalism walked away from me. So, I let you all go! You cannot be part of where Jesus is bringing me, where He is taking me. You cannot fathom where my mistakes, my backsliding, my failures have led me, but also where His grace is taking me! Keep your holier-than-thou self walking away. While you're talking, I'll keep on walking! Hands washed, life cleansed, destiny driven, and free from the opinions of haters and false friends!
Peace out man! Just gotta walk on.
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