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10-29-2011, 04:14 PM
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Let me ask you this. As a customer, if a company has a policy you dont agree with, or treats you poorly, how do you respond? Withdrawing your support. Not giving them your money? If enough people do that, that business will not survive.
How is this any different? Just like people have a choice where to do business, they have a choice where to work. If the job pool and potential hires dwindle, the message will have been sent to the hospital that this is not what "the people" want. And they subsequently won't be able to find anyone that wants to work for them. Seems self-regulating to me.
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10-29-2011, 04:43 PM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
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I agree with digging and aquila; what kind of boloney is America gonna keep putting up with? This is the kind of stuff that causes revolutions. Just my 2 cents.
btw, I am a non smoker just in case you wonder.
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But do Digging and Aquilla agree? 
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10-29-2011, 05:13 PM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
What's next? Banning fat people?
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10-29-2011, 05:14 PM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
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I don't get the chance to say this very often so I am going to jump on the opportunity.
I agree with Aquilla's posts. |
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But do Digging and Aquilla agree? |
looks like it to me. lol
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10-29-2011, 05:16 PM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
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What's next? Banning fat people?
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Cops, firefighters, and the military do it all the time, lol
Last edited by BrotherEastman; 10-29-2011 at 05:16 PM.
Reason: punctuation
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10-29-2011, 07:03 PM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
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looks like it to me. lol
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I see that!
I'll just say it's tricky to say one agrees with Aquilla. He is all over the place! 
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-29-2011, 07:06 PM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
I'll just go on record as saying I think private business should be able to insure who they wish, and not insure who they wish - as long as there is full disclosure and all parties understand what they are agreeing to when they enter the contract.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-29-2011, 11:12 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
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But do Digging and Aquilla agree? |
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
looks like it to me. lol
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I'd like to be sure and point out here that my post was to specific posts and is not an overall statement of mine toward Aquilla's posts.
As I've stated... we don't often agree. But... when we do we'll enjoy the moment and move on.
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10-30-2011, 07:49 AM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
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What's next? Banning fat people?
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Banning from??? If you are asking if obese people have special categories in both health premiums and treatment they receive. I would think that has always been true.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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10-30-2011, 08:53 AM
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Re: Hospital Will Not Hire Those Who Use Tobacco
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Originally Posted by AncientPaths
Let me ask you this. As a customer, if a company has a policy you dont agree with, or treats you poorly, how do you respond? Withdrawing your support. Not giving them your money? If enough people do that, that business will not survive.
How is this any different? Just like people have a choice where to do business, they have a choice where to work. If the job pool and potential hires dwindle, the message will have been sent to the hospital that this is not what "the people" want. And they subsequently won't be able to find anyone that wants to work for them. Seems self-regulating to me.
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You can't really withdraw support from a hospital. If you are in such bad condition you gotta go where the ambulance takes you. If it's the only hospital within 50 miles of you then you also don't have much of a choice on where to go. Now if it's a hardware store or some other business which offers some non-time-essential service then you can choose to go a little out of your way without any other concern than your gas and time spent to get there.
My personal opinion is that the hospital is probably mandating the no smoking workers policy so they won't have to pay as much on insurance. Sure, I get the hospital is a business... but it's the type of business that is free to mandate pretty much any policy within legal limits with the added benefit that the nature of its business ensures there can't be much of a backlash in terms of potential customers and thus profits.
At least that's how it seems to me...
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