Dispensatioal Premil vs Historic Premil

[kclee4jc]

I'd still like to see someone get a good discussion on about Dispensational versus Historic Premillenialism! lol

[houston]

kc,

how are you doing bro? I hate labels, but you are correct, I am an impartial preterist. I learned enough to get this far and I came to a hault. It is easy to go from post trib to partial or orthodox preterism. It is even easier to move from par pret to fulfilled or full preterism. I am not convinced that Jesus is not coming back, or shall I say, I am convinced that Jesus is coming back. There is something about the preterist hermeneutic that is dangerous, IMO. There are FP that do not believe that there is a literal Satan, communion is spiritual, and the end result of FP is cessationism, the belief that the gifts of the Spirit are no longer available to the body of Christ. (Those views are not held by most apostilic FP.)

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by houston

kc,

how are you doing bro? I hate labels, but you are correct, I am an impartial preterist. I learned enough to get this far and I came to a hault. It is easy to go from post trib to partial or orthodox preterism. It is even easier to move from par pret to fulfilled or full preterism. I am not convinced that Jesus is not coming back, or shall I say, I am convinced that Jesus is coming back. There is something about the preterist hermeneutic that is dangerous, IMO. There are FP that do not believe that there is a literal Satan, communion is spiritual, and the end result of FP is cessationism, the belief that the gifts of the Spirit are no longer available to the body of Christ. (Those views are not held by most apostilic FP.)

I'm doing well. Have not been on here too much at all lately..just too busy!
I'm still studyin on the second coming and it seems like God is constantly revealing new things to me that I didnt see before. I have to take it in small doses. I have not even started to really look at preterism. I can not bash or argue with partial preterism simply because I haven't studied it enough to even begin to understand it. I must say that the thought that Jesus Christ is not returning (FP) seems like heresy to me. And as you have mentioned, it leads to so much more dangerous false doctrine. I can't say that I hate labels because I need them to sort out different view points and come to some kind of understanding! lol
What do you believe about the Millenium brother?

[houston]

the way my brain files info, you have to ask a more specific question, and 2 or 3 part questions do help ...sometimes.

[kclee4jc]

Do you believe the Millenium is a literal thousand year period?
A literal period at all?
Current?
Future?
Or already past?

[kclee4jc]

that's a 5 part question!

[houston]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Do you believe the Millenium is a literal thousand year period?
A literal period at all?
Current?
Future?
Or already past?

Ah, Rev. 20! Lol. I lean more toward amillenialism (sp). If the thousand year mark is literal, it would have to be a future event. If it is not literal, the millenium can be either/or, right?
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Just went over the chapter. If the thousand yrs is current, those beheaded live and reign with Christ right now?? O.o

Things that make you go "hmmm."

Like I stated earlier, I got to partial preterism and kinda stepped back from it all. Label me the impartial preterist.

[houston]

I really didn't answer your questions and for that I apologize. I briefly went over the text and some things popped out that I didn't see before, and they may be problematic ...to your view.

Rev 20:3 satan is bound for a thousand yrs.

Rev 20:4 the first ressurrection occurs. that's great, but where do the people live? on earth? if you chose
A) Earth
you have ressurrected saints sharing a planet for a thousand yrs with people that have not died yet.

Then satan is loose to deceive the nations, gog, magog, etc.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by houston

Ah, Rev. 20! Lol. I lean more toward amillenialism (sp). If the thousand year mark is literal, it would have to be a future event. If it is not literal, the millenium can be either/or, right?
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Just went over the chapter. If the thousand yrs is current, those beheaded live and reign with Christ right now?? O.o Things that make you go "hmmm."

Like I stated earlier, I got to partial preterism and kinda stepped back from it all. Label me the impartial preterist.

Ask Bro Blume...this is his view.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by houston

I really didn't answer your questions and for that I apologize. I briefly went over the text and some things popped out that I didn't see before, and they may be problematic ...to your view.

Rev 20:3 satan is bound for a thousand yrs.

Rev 20:4 the first ressurrection occurs. that's great, but where do the people live? on earth? if you chose
A) Earth
you have ressurrected saints sharing a planet for a thousand yrs with people that have not died yet.
Then satan is loose to deceive the nations, gog, magog, etc.

This is how I believe. That is where the resurrected saints (I certainly hope to be one) will "be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years". It will be during this time that Christ will reign on earth with His saints. This is my view and the view of most premillenialists.