USA To Use Foreign Aid To Promote Gay Rights

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If you want to make a problem worse... get the government involved. Look at Prohibition.

Actually Prohibition was a reaction to the rampant problem of cheap and readily available alcohol in those days.
Prohibition did a good job of breaking a large segment of society of alcoholism.
Now, I am not in favor of banning alcohol and although I do not drink, I do not think it is a sin to do so.
However, Prohibition was a response to a problem.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

T2W - first let me say that I appreciate the debates without the name calling!
Also, your opinions are yours and I do not mean to demean them. It is my opinion that I was expressing when I said ridiculous and I am sorry if I offended you because that was not my intent.
Now, I am not trying to legislate anyone's morality. But, society has rules and regulations that are usually reflective of that society's moral code. The rules and regulations are usually developed to promote the kind of society that the government wants.
The debate is about what kind of society that we will have.
Also, when the government passes laws that "permit" certain activities, then it is a stamp of approval placed on those activities.
Let me try to address some of your points that were raised.
1. Minority group rights - it is true that many groups were discriminated against, among them my ancestors. Many of those groups were forced to conform the governments rules and laws that they disagreed with.
2. Alcohol/Food/Drugs - I have to disagree with you here. Marijuana would fall into the long term alcohol/food category with you, but it is treated the same as Heroin and other hard drugs. Other drugs such as Hydrocodone, do not instantly kill you but the government deems it within their power to regulate, as well.
3. Marital age - when I said young marriage I meant very young. In some countries girls are married as young as 5. Why do we need to impose our age limits on those cultures when they come here? We should just let them follow their culture.
4. Prostitution - even in those states where it is legal, it is very regulated. Why? If it really is their body to do with as they choose, then anyone should be able to prostitute themselves whenever they want.

I may start another thread with some basic morality questions just to satisfy my curiousity as to everyone's opinion.

Although I do not see where I name called, I would not offend you intentionally, seriously meaning that you seem pretty tough. I am sincerely sorry if I was anything less than polite.

Please do not think that I do not see your points. In a perfect world I think I would love for you to be making the rule book. But, we live in a fallen world. One that the bible promises us is going to get worse. I am not looking to circumvent that because I believe it is God's plan and He knows best. I am trying to support fairness in government. Although that means that people will be allowed to do things that I would never do myself it also allowes me to follow my own concience with equal protection.

I am going to leave it right there because I do not think that what you are saying is bad or wrong... just that it won't work.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Actually Prohibition was a reaction to the rampant problem of cheap and readily available alcohol in those days.
Prohibition did a good job of breaking a large segment of society of alcoholism.
Now, I am not in favor of banning alcohol and although I do not drink, I do not think it is a sin to do so.
However, Prohibition was a response to a problem.

Well... praise the Gubberment! lol

What me and a young lady wanted to get married and we wanted to do something you'd consider very immoral in our bedroom. Would you want to use the GOVERNMENT to prevent us from marrying or doing those things??? If so, why? If not, why?

[aegsm76]

No, no, no, Aquila!!!
I did not mean to imply that you name call!
I was just having flashbacks to the various discussions that I used to have on that other forum!
You have always been great to dialogue with!

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Well... praise the Gubberment! lol

What me and a young lady wanted to get married and we wanted to do something you'd consider very immoral in our bedroom. Would you want to use the GOVERNMENT to prevent us from marrying or doing those things??? If so, why? If not, why?

That is a great question and sort of follows a thought process that I had.
The "strange" sex segment of society seems to be growing.
So, how do you handle those instances where it goes too far and one of the parties wants to charge the other with a crime?
This sort of followed my thoughts on an individual freedom question.
What if two individuals had signed a contract where one of them agreed to kill the other one, with the one to be killed agreeing to it.
In your world that should be ok, correct?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

That is a great question and sort of follows a thought process that I had.
The "strange" sex segment of society seems to be growing.
So, how do you handle those instances where it goes too far and one of the parties wants to charge the other with a crime?
This sort of followed my thoughts on an individual freedom question.
What if two individuals had signed a contract where one of them agreed to kill the other one, with the one to be killed agreeing to it.
In your world that should be ok, correct?

Considering that killing someone can be seen as taking their rights away and that a good segment of the population cannot understand a desire to die that stems from anything but mental illness then I think an agreement for a person to kill another that desires to die could be construed as depriving a mentally ill person of his/her rights. As such one could argue that the contract should have been void because it was signed by a mentally ill person.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

That is a great question and sort of follows a thought process that I had.
The "strange" sex segment of society seems to be growing.

Honestly, I don't believe it's growing. I believe more people are being open about their sexual preferences. 50 years ago Christians wouldn't talk about sexual behaviors and preferences that are considered a private and normal part of a sexual relationship today.

So, how do you handle those instances where it goes too far and one of the parties wants to charge the other with a crime?

Ummm...if someone wants to charge someone for a crime, they take them to court. It's not my job to ask the government to babyset them.

This sort of followed my thoughts on an individual freedom question.
What if two individuals had signed a contract where one of them agreed to kill the other one, with the one to be killed agreeing to it.
In your world that should be ok, correct?

It's simple. The government should only intervene if something endangers the life, liberty, or property of a citizen. In your scenario above, the contract would result in the taking of a life. Therefore it should be illegal.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by CC1

One more story for those of you who do not think it matters whether we have a Republican or Democrat President.

I am pasting a link to an Associated Press story today titled the same as this thread; "US To Use Foreign Aid To Promote Gay Rights"

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...12-06-11-01-09

You open with an appeal to those who might believe a globalist agenda? Has it been illustrated here that that does not hold sway?
The choices of Dem or Rep are completely the choice between two evils, for me; lol, it's a cliche'. The trails of the globalist influence in either party are difficult to dismiss.

The Rise of the Fourth Reich, Jim Marrs
apparently they are not even disputed.

[AncientPaths]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

You open with an appeal to those who might believe a globalist agenda? Has it been illustrated here that that does not hold sway?
The choices of Dem or Rep are completely the choice between two evils, for me; lol, it's a cliche'. The trails of the globalist influence in either party are difficult to dismiss.

The Rise of the Fourth Reich, Jim Marrs
apparently they are not even disputed.

I prefer my evil liars to pretend they're Christian, so I vote Republican

[houston]

Originally Posted by AncientPaths

I prefer my evil liars to pretend they're Christian, so I vote Republican

I vote Democrat to help usher in the end of the age.