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Old 12-29-2011, 07:28 AM
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Re: The [Apostolic] Prosperity Gospel

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Ok, so let's go to how the tithe is Biblically defined.

Tithes in the Old Testament was not money. It was 1/10 of the land, whether of the seed or of the fruit of the tree.

And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD.
(Leviticus 27:30)

And it was the tenth animal of the herd under the rod.

And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.
(Leviticus 27:32)

The Levites received the tithe because they had NO land inheritance. The other tribes gave a tenth of the increase of the land and of the herd once every three (3) years.

1The priests the Levites, and all the tribe of Levi, shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel: they shall eat the offerings of the LORD made by fire, and his inheritance.
2 Therefore shall they have no inheritance among their brethren: the LORD is their inheritance, as he hath said unto them.
(Deuterotomy 18:1-2)


At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
(Deuteronomy 14:28)

**Notice...this is not going into the storehouse...it is at the gate.**

When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;
(Deuteronomy 26:12)


Come to Beth–el, and transgress; at Gilgal multiply transgression; and bring your sacrifices every morning, and your tithes after three years:
(Amos 4:4)


If today's tithe preacher wants to preach tithe...then perhaps he ought to receive the true tithe that God sanctioned...food and animals, wine, corn etc. but one thing..he better make sure he is a Levite before he receives the tithe, as the Levites were the only ones scripturally allowed to receive the tithe.

While God did not make tithing a difficult thing for any of the Israelites to give, (a tenth of the increase every three years) today's tithe preacher wants an unscriptural tithe. They want 10% of all you earn plus offerings and they want it every week or as often as you got paid! The Israelites did not live under such a burden. There seems to be more freedom under the law than what today's tithe preachers teach. There is no scriptural basis for a money tithe either in the Old Testament or the New Testament. Todays tithe preacher also owns land and very little (in most cases) of the tithe goes to the stranger, the oppressed, the widow. As one person here put it...it goes to pay for a big church, paved parking lots, utilities etc. Perhaps it goes to a vacation house on a lake, as some preachers in my region own. Or maybe it goes to two brand new SUVs for both him and his wife, while the church members drive old cars.

Now if one wants to delve deeper as to why the people are pushed to "tithe", check out to see if your church is considered to be a 501 (c) (3) Corporation.
If you have financial business meetings every year, then most likely your church is considered a corporation. Hmmmmm....is this what Jesus has in mind when He comes for His bride?

While you are at it, look up the origins of the Federal Reserve to gain a better understanding of what our money is. It is a Federal Reserve Note. It is legal tender but, it is not silver or gold, which is Constitutionally lawful money. Don't believe me? Try paying your traffic fines or taxes with gold or silver. They won't take it. You have to convert any gold or silver into Federal Reserve Notes.

Preachers all the time push tithes using their strongest (fear) doctrine Malachi Chapter 3. This is one of the most misunderstood scriptures of all time. And it is used to deceive people.

Every tithing message I've ever heard (Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, OP, AoG) all go the same way with a little mixing it up... but here are the basic components.

From Acts 5 (the scary part) where Ananias and Sapphira we struck dead for withholding money from the sale of property. Obviously it is not happening today if there are as many people withholding all they have from God as it seems and staying alive just fine... but boy is the idea of sudden death powerful scary!

From Malachi 3 (where we are taught how we are cursed for robbing God of the Tithe). Israel was told to bring all the tithes into the storehouse. This was seed, produce, meat and all other agricultural products produced on the land. Not money. Check it our for yourself. I happen to be a farmer but just exactly how happy do you think my pastor would be to see me bring him seed and crops from my harvest, or a side of beef? Well maybe even happy enough but her would still EXPECT my check in the plate on Sunday.

From Genesis 14 (Where we learn that it's TEN percent of the gross) Melchizedek is given 10% of Abram's spoils from war. This is the only time in Abrams 175 years that he ever gave 10% and it was not from his regular income but from things taken in war.

And that is pretty much the song and dance... only none of those scriptures are about my giving 10% of my gross income to the church now and to say they are is to stretch the truth into a lie. I am not saying that every preacher is a liar. Many, having been raised in church, grew up hearing these messages and believed them. They had faithful parents who taught them and they believe that they have seen blessings because of this act of 'tithing' and if God honors the intent of the heart maybe they have indeed. But it does not make it 'truth' any more than that a man can only serve God with a clean shaven face. or any of the other things the church tries to stretch scripture to say.

Tithing in the Christian church was not instituted until there was a paid CLERGY, buildings, and yes...parking lots! From what we can tell about 800 years after Christs death. Until then itinerant preachers were paid with love offerings. Those who were elders in the local church WORKED and supported themselves. Money was collected for the poor, widows and orphans. Now a single mother is more likely to have to get food stamps than to get any help from her church.

Tithing is also the biggest part of what now causes the huge divide between clergy and laity. If someone is being paid to be a 'professional' Christian then we expect them to be doing the Christian work the same way I expect my farm caretaker to feed my animals, mow my grass, and clean the barns. If I pay him every week, why would I shovel manure? In the same way most Christians are no longer willing to get their hands dirty working for God. And sadly many preachers do not want to get their hands dirty working for God either.

No one can sell God by demanding money for serving him, it just aint bible.
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