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01-03-2012, 02:54 PM
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Confidentiality of Tithes
Never have ask this question before and not sure it has been discussed.
For the most part, every church business meeting I have attended while in the UPC, the tithing report amount is kept confidential. Anyone want to explain why this is so? What is the big secret? All other funds where always reported.
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01-03-2012, 04:08 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
There is no secret at our business meetings. All contributions are listed:
Tithes
General Offering
Missions
Misc Special Offerings
Then the expenses from each group is listed.
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01-03-2012, 04:15 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
I can see why individual tithing reports would be confidential, but the total amounts should be available to everybody.
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01-03-2012, 04:23 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
There is no secret at our business meetings. All contributions are listed:
Tithes
General Offering
Missions
Misc Special Offerings
Then the expenses from each group is listed.
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01-03-2012, 05:34 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
Nope, the churches I have been a part of in the past only showed the general fund and not the tithing account. One was UPC and the other the pastor was former UPC.
Amazing the difference, I now go to a baptist church that has audited financial statements, is overseen by true elders, and has the monthly financial statements online, has 32 million in assets, a budget of 12 million a year. And, weekly attendance at my campus is around 8000 while the auditorium seats about 1500. Total contrast to the church that has a 400 seat auditorium with 60 people, if that.
Looking back, I have thank God for his grace because I gave a lot of money to a church that wasted it and I never questioned.
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01-03-2012, 05:48 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by deltaguitar
Nope, the churches I have been a part of in the past only showed the general fund and not the tithing account. One was UPC and the other the pastor was former UPC.
Amazing the difference, I now go to a baptist church that has audited financial statements, is overseen by true elders, and has the monthly financial statements online, has 32 million in assets, a budget of 12 million a year. And, weekly attendance at my campus is around 8000 while the auditorium seats about 1500. Total contrast to the church that has a 400 seat auditorium with 60 people, if that.
Looking back, I have thank God for his grace because I gave a lot of money to a church that wasted it and I never questioned.
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YOU are wasting it now supporting false doctrine and sending yourself and your family to hell.
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01-03-2012, 06:01 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
in the last upci church I attended every dollar in and where it went was in the annual report to the church.
The upci I attended prior to that, the tithe were never reported separately from other funds that came in.
What the pastor took out was an unknown.
Pastor's that operate this way today simply are hiding something. They do not want anyone to know how deep they are into the pockets of the church.
Everyone that is participating
in supporting the work of God has a right to know about the stewardship of the church.
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01-03-2012, 06:35 PM
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The first church I ever attended had a business meeting twice while I was there (in about 6 years). No other church I've attended since has had a business meeting.
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01-03-2012, 07:22 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
The first church I ever attended had a business meeting twice while I was there (in about 6 years). No other church I've attended since has had a business meeting.
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No wonder you are passionate about financial contributions. That's pretty radical!
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01-03-2012, 07:26 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
We have attended 2 UPCI churches over the past 10 years. If there was ever a business meeting at either one we sure were never invited. Thinking about where all that money might have gone would give me a head ache... and a heart ache. So I have just purposed to know where my money goes in the future.
I did have a friend that is a UPC preacher tell my husband that he never put much in the 'general fund' because "when you do that people start wanting to mess with it".... whatever that means.
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