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Old 01-31-2012, 03:36 PM
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Re: Common Myths about Gay Christians

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LOL. if being a Christian was as simple as some of you are suggesting, the epistles would never have been written.

Church would just be tents with evangelist getting people saved and that would be the last time anyone needed to walk in a church cuz they would be all "mindofchrist" and all that.

you people make me laugh. your funny.
I can accept that Christians can and do struggle with sinfulness (I will admit that I do at times myself) but to give a special title to those saved from a homosexual lifestyle, because they have an occasional sinful temptation is wrong, and in fact, adds to the problem.

What do you think about having a Gay Christians support group at your church Ferd?
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: Common Myths about Gay Christians

Aquila, suppose a normal unmarried guy got saved, and kept being a hound-dog, laughed at celibacy, would he qualify as a "Hound-dog Christian?"
And in all fairness, wouldn't this be fairly termed an issue of youth? My meaning being that for about 10 years or so, humans are pretty hormonal, and decisions that seem unthinkable at 20 become options at 35?
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:08 PM
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There is something wrong with the name of this thread.
There is no such thing as a "Gay Christian".
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only in a very deceived mind.
Or lying Christians

or Adulterous

etc etc?
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This is only the result of marginalizing gays in the church to an extreme. Those who have obeyed the Gospel want to be recognized as being Christians... even if they still have their struggles. I believe all disciples of Jesus should simply be called "Christians". But that doesn't happen in this world. They want people to know that those who are in this circumstance (be it because of genetics or experience) can be saved.

We still freak out at the little word "gay". lol
I prefer Gah.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:10 PM
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Aquila hits the mark yet again.
He's done it before? Or did you mean missed the mark yet again?
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:27 PM
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Therein lies the problem. They are giving their own sinful lusts credibility by naming and claiming it as their own. What should be a shameful thing worthy of repentance has become a badge to wear in "honor" of an abomination.

Listening to them, helping them, and praying with them is all good and right... Nevertheless, the end result can never be acceptance as fellow believers in Christ, unless there is a willingness to abandon homosexuality.
Are you saying that a Christian, who has same gender attraction and chooses to be celibate out of love and devotion for Christ, has no right to admit, or acknowledge, that they are gay?
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:30 PM
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Not born again. They are clinging to the carnal man

I became a new creature. I do not go by Marlboro man of God.

Saul took his new name.

Jacob accepted his new name.

Cassius Clay took on Mohammad Ali. (I have met him 2 times)

Bible says to put away the past. You say keep the identity.

Lot's wife looked back. How did that work out for her? NaCl. She is salt of the earth.
Coadie, you and I have no right to tell a person they are not born again, especially if they live a life of celibate love and devotion for Christ. Something few straight Christians do.
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:36 PM
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I can accept that Christians can and do struggle with sinfulness (I will admit that I do at times myself) but to give a special title to those saved from a homosexual lifestyle, because they have an occasional sinful temptation is wrong, and in fact, adds to the problem.

What do you think about having a Gay Christians support group at your church Ferd?
No one is giving them a "special title". Lol

Gender is a very important part of our identity. They simply want to be loved and acknowledged for who they are. In my opinion, if they are committed to a life of celibacy to honor Christ, I think it's a small request.
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