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02-09-2012, 07:24 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
Everything flows out of the belly. Speaking in tongues flows out of the belly. Peace and joy flow out of the belly.
I was a teenager when I first travailed. I heard the word TRAVAIL often, but nobody ever described it. I was kneeling in prayer. I was speaking in tongues and then I felt contractions in my belly. That went on for several minutes. I was weeping. There was a thick presence of God.
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02-09-2012, 07:26 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
My experience was free of pain.
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02-09-2012, 07:44 PM
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
I have no doubt that it will vary from person to person, and possibly from time to time. I have heard of those who spent hours and prayer, and they said that it hurt. I know that the once or twice I was close, I had discomfort for a number of minutes after.
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02-09-2012, 08:41 PM
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
My Mom prayed like that, a lot. I have prayed like that a few times.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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02-09-2012, 09:03 PM
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
No offense intended to anyone, but I am a bit skeptical about people claiming to pray "with groanings which cannot be uttered" while they are moaning and wailing etc. Not that wailing or moaning would be bad. But, by definition it is excluded from being the "groanings which cannot be uttered" - it IS in fact being uttered...
Is the verse not clearly saying that the "Spirit" makes the intercession?
Romans 8:26
King James Version (KJV)
26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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Last edited by Hoovie; 02-09-2012 at 09:06 PM.
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02-09-2012, 09:23 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
No offense intended to anyone, but I am a bit skeptical about people claiming to pray "with groanings which cannot be uttered" while they are moaning and wailing etc. Not that wailing or moaning would be bad. But, by definition it is excluded from being the "groanings which cannot be uttered" - it IS in fact being uttered...
Is the verse not clearly saying that the "Spirit" makes the intercession?
Romans 8:26
King James Version (KJV)
26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
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Oh, you read the verse. Lol
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02-09-2012, 11:59 PM
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
No offense intended to anyone, but I am a bit skeptical about people claiming to pray "with groanings which cannot be uttered" while they are moaning and wailing etc. Not that wailing or moaning would be bad. But, by definition it is excluded from being the "groanings which cannot be uttered" - it IS in fact being uttered...
Is the verse not clearly saying that the "Spirit" makes the intercession?
Romans 8:26
King James Version (KJV)
26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
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Yes, you have divined the line where a stressed, prayerful groan that the Spirit carries your real need in has become a display.
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02-10-2012, 05:02 AM
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
“Prayer,” by Verbal Bean, 1991
Verbal Bean on Intercession:
Intercession is the deepest prayer you can pray. When you have received the spirit of intercession, you’re as far into that inner court of talking to God that you’ll ever get. You have arrived at the holy place. There is no such a thing as a deeper, more intense communion, between your soul and your God than intercession.
Generally, intercession is with great groaning. It is as what Paul said, “Groaning that can not be uttered.” It is the despair of the soul. It’s a time when it seems like you must have the answer or die. Intercession is that type of praying that takes physical strength. Most people don’t even know what intercessory prayer is. (Page 19)
I usually look for the intercessors when I go preach a revival. I look to see if God has one in that church, and thoroughly encourage him, because I have seen them save a service.
One particular place I was at, there was a little woman that was the intercessor in that revival. I saw the service tie up, and things were not moving, and I’d glance over at her and there she’d be getting drawn into knots, physically. I’ve seen her literally fall over on the seat with groaning that cannot be uttered. It wouldn’t be but a few minutes until things started breaking, and happening, because she went into the inner sanctuary with God . . .
It requires that you are going to allow your soul to become lead and directed in prayer. You cannot be your own, because at three o clock in the morning the Spirit may bid you, and you can’t say that you’re sleepy, or, you prayed at nine, because intercession means “I’ve got to have it now!” . . . (Page 20)
You’ll never be used in intercession if you haven’t been consistent in living for God. If your life is not consistently faithful, you’ll never know this spirit of intercession, because He’s got to know you before He’ll trust you to go that far. (Page 21)
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02-10-2012, 05:19 AM
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
I love reading Bro. Bean's books. They always have something that I need.
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02-10-2012, 05:22 AM
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This is still that!
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Re: Intercessory Prayer
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I love reading Bro. Bean's books. They always have something that I need.
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I have a tape of his preaching somewhere, but it would require some digging to find it, and I'd have to find a tape player somewhere, to hard atm.
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