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Old 02-14-2012, 10:29 AM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:

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I think the anti-sabbaticals are thinking that the Sabbatarians are claiming one must keep the Sabbath to be saved. Paul emphasized throughout the Epistles that we are not justified or made righteous by the Law. Please don’t think that all Sabbatarians believe that one must keep the Sabbath to be saved. Sabbatarians believe that the born again believer keeps the moral law of God by walking in the Spirit because he or she IS saved. The writings of the Ante-Nicene Fathers demonstrate this.

However, there are among us Sabbatarians who believe in shedding all the trappings of the Roman Church. We don’t have a biblical precedent for meeting on Sundays. The truth is that “biblically” the early church met on the Sabbath (as an Apostolic custom). And what a more appropriate day to worship, physically rest, and reflect upon our spiritual rest in Christ than the Sabbath? I mean, Jesus is… “Lord of the Sabbath”. Why not choose to honor Him on the Sabbath?

The FACT is this…there wasn’t an issue until the Constantine’s Edict in 321 A.D. that resulted in an empire wide anathema against those Christians who still practiced the “Apostolic” custom of meeting on the Sabbath. This is where this theological war began. This is the reason why there is contention on this issue. The Sunday Keepers are the first to historically denounce Christians who didn’t choose to meet on Sundays. The Sunday Keepers have kept this perspective until the recent Evangelical Movements in the 20th century. Only recently have Sunday Keepers far and wide begun to cry that it doesn’t matter what day we worship on . They are ringing the bell of peace and making it seem like Sabbatarians are devisive… when it was the declaration of the “veneral day of the sun” (Sunday) that opened this entire conflict up. And sadly… many Sabbatarians have DIED down through history because of it. Sunday is a day that is soaked with the blood of martyrs. It’s a day that was forced upon the church by edict. And though Christians have every right to worship on any day they choose…many are deeply convicted that Sunday be rejected on these grounds.

The Sabbatarian point is this… let’s get back to the Bible. Let’s meet as the early church did. Let’s value what they valued. Let’s shed as much of the Roman Catholic baggage as possible.
Amen. We consider sunrise as the beginning of the day, when it is not. There are many similar examples of our incorrect premises.

Making Saturday, the last day of the week in our calendar, your busiest day, and then resting on the first day of the week, Sunday, is _______. Everyone must fill in this blank for themselves, but you might remember that we still practice circumcision, which is not a Commandment, and mostly ignore the Sabbath, which is. Personally, my word is perverted.

How about some relevant Scripture with "days," since that one that imo you are misinterpreting with "days" in it seems so powerful for many:
"You would think to change times, and days." Which even a child should be able to gather means "You aren't gonna, not for long. You are anti-Christ, and you might fool some for a minute, but you will not prevail." Where do you stand, personally, in this little equation? Do you believe this Scripture is directed at anyone other than Rome?

While there is Biblical allowance for Grace superceding the Sabbath observance, you might consider whether you want to take advantage of an allowance so freely. My study of this tells me that I can do this and not be condemned--although I'm finding this hard to stretch over those who supposedly have knowledge; this strikes me as an allowance FOR THE IGNORANT-- but I would definitely, obviously miss the benefits, imo, and in my experience.

I don't believe you will be condemned for Sunday observance, or eating pork. I never bring this up to people in my witness, and in fact studiously avoid it. Grace is the important thing, and I believe we are to show Grace to those ignorant of it, the lost, the sea, the jungle-dwellers. And not be overloading them with relatively pointless observance at inappropriate times. But there comes a point in our walk when knowledge should prevail, and a higher truth realized, and I believe taking advantage of an allowance then is backing up, or standing still?

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