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Old 02-25-2012, 11:07 AM
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Huh?

Every time you try to clear this up you wind up with more of something you need to scrape off your shoe... Maybe you should quit while you are ... totally buried in your own craziness.
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:36 PM
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One person in a family that develops mental illness such as depression can cripple the entire family function. The whole family function has to change to help the one who is sick.

The media feeds needless fear into people over those with mental illness. This only impedes the healing process that mental illness sufferers need. The family and church members can speed recovery through love and acceptance of the sufferer. The family can help through finding ways to remineralize their loved ones diet. Pitch in and help buy good food based vitamins to give to their loved one. Good food based vitamins without petroleum and chemicals are highly expensive and are not found in the average grocery store.

Medication for mental depression was never meant to be a lifetime commodity as they are teaching the doctors now. Originally, it was only meant to be given for about 9 months so that the one with depression can explore why they are depressed and work on that. Many times it is because of poor nutrition or past or present abuse issues. The medications make it easier for the one to work through it.

Lots of things cause mental illness because certain chemicals in our food system and culture will remove God-given human brain based receptors such as norepinephrine and dopamine and take it's place.

MSG (monosodium Glutamate) is but one that comes to mind. Much of this is in restaurant style food and in processed foods.

http://www.msgtruth.org/

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/

But there are many more chemicals and preservatives that have never been evaluated and we are consuming.

People tend to want to lump all mental illness into one pot and place fear upon the concept of mental illness. A phobia is a mental illness. Being afraid of heights or closed in spaces or of crowds is irrational and considered to be mental illness. There are just degrees of incapacitation.

Schizophrenia is a totally heartbreaking illness. People should have pity upon those who suffer from schizophrenia, not total fear, but a healthy caution concerning these people. They suffer immensely.

Chemical substance addiction/abuse is another heartbreaking problem and we as Christians should do all we can to help a brother or sister break free...even if it means the use of medications (a slow step-down) for a period of time to restore them back to normal body function.

Christians need to educate themselves on the problems that their brothers and sisters go through and either help them through with education and restoration or say little to nothing. Many people mean well, but hurt more than they help.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:06 PM
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I work as a security guard and have had to perform patient watches at hospitals where a patient was growing increasingly violent. I am not making reference to the people who take psychsomatic drugs and live among us every day. I am talking about a small portion of the population who are truly a danger to themselves and others.
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I work as a security guard and have had to perform patient watches at hospitals where a patient was growing increasingly violent. I am not making reference to the people who take psychsomatic drugs and live among us every day. I am talking about a small portion of the population who are truly a danger to themselves and others.
I thought maybe that was where you were coming from, because perhaps in another post you mentioned working in law enforcement. I can understand your viewpoint, but of course, as a general rule, sedating and subduing and handcuffing someone for mental illness sounds really really over the top... and I was just trying to help you clarify that
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One person in a family that develops mental illness such as depression can cripple the entire family function. The whole family function has to change to help the one who is sick.

The media feeds needless fear into people over those with mental illness. This only impedes the healing process that mental illness sufferers need. The family and church members can speed recovery through love and acceptance of the sufferer. The family can help through finding ways to remineralize their loved ones diet. Pitch in and help buy good food based vitamins to give to their loved one. Good food based vitamins without petroleum and chemicals are highly expensive and are not found in the average grocery store.

Medication for mental depression was never meant to be a lifetime commodity as they are teaching the doctors now. Originally, it was only meant to be given for about 9 months so that the one with depression can explore why they are depressed and work on that. Many times it is because of poor nutrition or past or present abuse issues. The medications make it easier for the one to work through it.

Lots of things cause mental illness because certain chemicals in our food system and culture will remove God-given human brain based receptors such as norepinephrine and dopamine and take it's place.

MSG (monosodium Glutamate) is but one that comes to mind. Much of this is in restaurant style food and in processed foods.

http://www.msgtruth.org/

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/

But there are many more chemicals and preservatives that have never been evaluated and we are consuming.

People tend to want to lump all mental illness into one pot and place fear upon the concept of mental illness. A phobia is a mental illness. Being afraid of heights or closed in spaces or of crowds is irrational and considered to be mental illness. There are just degrees of incapacitation.

Schizophrenia is a totally heartbreaking illness. People should have pity upon those who suffer from schizophrenia, not total fear, but a healthy caution concerning these people. They suffer immensely.

Chemical substance addiction/abuse is another heartbreaking problem and we as Christians should do all we can to help a brother or sister break free...even if it means the use of medications (a slow step-down) for a period of time to restore them back to normal body function.

Christians need to educate themselves on the problems that their brothers and sisters go through and either help them through with education and restoration or say little to nothing. Many people mean well, but hurt more than they help.
What you say is so true. Mental illness is horribly misunderstood. It is a very real medical problems in many, if not most situations. However, as you said, medication is not the only answer, and I believe BByrd009 has spoken about vitamins, diet, and exercise too as huge contributing factors to controlling mental illness.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and knowledge on this subject, one many don't understand at all, and would rather cast judgment on someone than try to understand, and help in such a situation.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:01 PM
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I thought maybe that was where you were coming from, because perhaps in another post you mentioned working in law enforcement. I can understand your viewpoint, but of course, as a general rule, sedating and subduing and handcuffing someone for mental illness sounds really really over the top... and I was just trying to help you clarify that

Thank you. Like I said, I am not a person who is cold hearted. I really do not like some aspects of my job.
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I don't believe you are cold hearted Jay. I do think that everybody who works in jobs that has authority like security and law enforcement should have extensive training in handling medical cases. There has been too many people thought to be drunk when in reality they were having a medical crisis such as keto acidosis or hypoxia from a pulmonary problem.

I once walked into a room to give a patient his breathing treatment during the night. He was receiving breathing treatments around the clock. He woke up with a start and grabbed my arm in a tight fisted manner. He was dragging me near to him and his other hand was balled up in a fist and pulled back. He was getting ready to deck me into tomorrow.

I also knew that he had very low blood oxygen. Perhaps he was having a PTSD syndrome along with the hypoxia moment? I don't know but I managed to calm him down and get him to accept his treatment.

Now, from a law enforcement's point of view, would someone have bounced the billyclub off his head and given him a few lumps had he done that to them?
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I agree that there are sometimes issues, I would like to see more security available in hospitals to give the nurses aid when there are problems like what you describe. That would help keep you from getting a black eye or false teeth before it's a necessity.
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One person in a family that develops mental illness such as depression can cripple the entire family function... The whole family function has to change to help the one who is sick.

The media feeds needless fear into people over those with mental illness...

Lots of things cause mental illness because certain chemicals in our food system and culture will remove God-given human brain based receptors such as norepinephrine and dopamine and take it's place.

MSG (monosodium Glutamate) is but one that comes to mind. Much of this is in restaurant style food and in processed foods.

http://www.msgtruth.org/

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/

But there are many more chemicals and preservatives that have never been evaluated and we are consuming...

Christians need to educate themselves on the problems that their brothers and sisters go through and either help them through with education and restoration or say little to nothing. Many people mean well, but hurt more than they help.
Yup. We make this, and then can't deal with it. You can only believe that if wild animals exposed to our water are showing signs of androgeny, other...warped stuff, that it should be taken as a sign.
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