From what I have seen so far, In my opinion, Zimmerman is guilty. He went too far. I have managed Citizen On Patrol groups for two different cities. The first thing that struck me is that he was armed. I have never allowed anyone "on patrol" to be armed. I don't care if they had a permit or not. It was against the rules and you would be removed from my group if you were caught carrying. This case is a prime example why I had the rule. It presents a question that has to be answered. Would Zimmerman have approached Martin if he was NOT armed ? I think we all know the answer. So in being armed, he felt a sense of securtiy that allowed him to take his job to another level. By not carrying you react more conservatively and revert to doing your job; record and report.
On another note: The day that Sharpton, Jackson and any other person or group, that enjoys pulling the race card, gives this much hype about a black kid killing another black kid, I will give them some respect. Until then, they are worse than Zimmerman in my opinion. They have done nothing since the day they were born to bring an end to racism. Nothing.
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Chris Tutko, the director of Neighborhood Watch for the National Sheriffs' Association said that Zimmerman broke a cardinal rule by carrying a gun and that there was no need to carry a gun.
However, even though Police departments and sheriff's offices advise trained volunteers never to carry weapons, Zimmerman didn't break the law by carrying a gun. He had a concealed weapons permit.
All, more news out today that a neighbor of Zim's saw him with bandages on his nose and the back of his head the day after.
This proves nothing, except that part of the story he is telling is true.
Everyone needs to chill and let the entire thing be settled, legally.
I say that, but I do not believe it will happen.
We do outreach every week in "the projects" and the level of rage over this incident is very high.
It is high enough to make me nervous and I have never felt that way in all of my life.
I have spent all of my life in a totally mixed, racial environment.
Or as the minority in the environment.
Which is what happens when you grow up playing a lot of ball...
If there is not a conviction of Zim, there will be retaliation, in my opinion.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, I believe this incident should have all of us on our knees in prayer.
We as the people of God should realize that this is not the time to take sides, but time to realize that we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
I realize that you could say this about a lot of situations in this world, but I really do not know how anyone can pronounce Zim guilty or innocent.
There is too much noise and confusion around the entire incident.
And too many conflicting stories.
why havent they shown us a current pic of trayvon ? is that because he has the gang banger look neck tats and dreads etc.no they would rather give us the baby face pic ,same thing for zim gotta have that gruff intimidating look he doesnt even look that way currently, media overblown ,sensationalistic
I think a large part of the question whether to reopen the case with additional charges will be determined by whose voice was yelling, begging for help while being attacked. I think the grand jury can determine that through voice analysis.
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Meanwhile, two experts now say that voice analysis of 911 emergency calls made in the last seconds of Martin’s life indicates that likely it was the teenager – not Zimmerman, as his family contends – who cried out for help.
The Orlando Sentinel newspaper reported Saturday that experts it contacted could not confirm that it was Martin’s cry because they had no sample of the teen’s voice to compare.
But using a sample of Zimmerman’s voice, they confidently eliminated Zimmerman as the one crying out in distress.
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Meanwhile, two experts now say that voice analysis of 911 emergency calls made in the last seconds of Martin’s life indicates that likely it was the teenager – not Zimmerman, as his family contends – who cried out for help.
The Orlando Sentinel newspaper reported Saturday that experts it contacted could not confirm that it was Martin’s cry because they had no sample of the teen’s voice to compare.
But using a sample of Zimmerman’s voice, they confidently eliminated Zimmerman as the one crying out in distress.
I am no expert and I do not claim to know definitively, but it always sounded more like a teen's voice than an adult voice to me. Admittedly, I have never heard either talk before and I could be totally wrong, but if you were to play me the screams in a vacuum I would have guessed teen over adult.
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Meanwhile, two experts now say that voice analysis of 911 emergency calls made in the last seconds of Martin’s life indicates that likely it was the teenager – not Zimmerman, as his family contends – who cried out for help.
The Orlando Sentinel newspaper reported Saturday that experts it contacted could not confirm that it was Martin’s cry because they had no sample of the teen’s voice to compare.
But using a sample of Zimmerman’s voice, they confidently eliminated Zimmerman as the one crying out in distress.
A good defense attorney is going to tear this analysis apart.
The software that the expert used for analysis was rolled out on March 1st.
There is also a debate within this community as to whether this software is accurate or what kind of control sample that you need.
To further muddy the waters family members and friends of both claim that it is Zim or Tray.
This begs the question: If it was Trayvon screaming and not Zimmerman, AND it has been previously reported that Trayvon didn't have any signs of a scuffle on his body, why was he yelling for help?
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This begs the question: If it was Trayvon screaming and not Zimmerman, AND it has been previously reported that Trayvon didn't have any signs of a scuffle on his body, why was he yelling for help?
That's what I would be asking. The Coroner said that there was no signs of a struggle on Trayvon's body except for the gunshot wound. So, yes, why would he be screaming?
That's what I would be asking. The Coroner said that there was no signs of a struggle on Trayvon's body except for the gunshot wound. So, yes, why would he be screaming?
Doesnt matter what the investigation reveals ,it could be cold hard facts of zim's innocence and they will all be hollering the fix is in and they will riot immediatley, its what a large segment of the black population lives for !!!Same as sports fans a lot of em could care less who wins or loses they just wanna riot ala vancouver in the stanley cup finals
Doesnt matter what the investigation reveals ,it could be cold hard facts of zim's innocence and they will all be hollering the fix is in and they will riot immediatley, its what a large segment of the black population lives for !!!Same as sports fans a lot of em could care less who wins or loses they just wanna riot ala vancouver in the stanley cup finals
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