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04-01-2012, 07:55 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Originally Posted by canam
 Doesnt matter what the investigation reveals ,it could be cold hard facts of zim's innocence and they will all be hollering the fix is in and they will riot immediatley, its what a large segment of the black population lives for !!!Same as sports fans a lot of em could care less who wins or loses they just wanna riot ala vancouver in the stanley cup finals
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How will it possibly help Zimmerman's case if it can be shown that Trayvon was the one yelling for help?
If Trayvon has no signs of a scuffle (including offensive wounds), wouldn't that point to some other cause of Zimmerman's injuries? Such as injuring himself to make it look like there was a just cause for him to kill someone?
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04-01-2012, 08:46 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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How will it possibly help Zimmerman's case if it can be shown that Trayvon was the one yelling for help?
If Trayvon has no signs of a scuffle (including offensive wounds), wouldn't that point to some other cause of Zimmerman's injuries? Such as injuring himself to make it look like there was a just cause for him to kill someone?
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Except there was an eye witness to corroborate Zimmerman's story. You been talking to Shelia Jackson Lee?
I have no problem changing my view on this case if I am given more substantial evidence. If Zimmerman followed this boy with intent to harm, he needs to be prosecuted. If Trayvon instigated the attack, he paid for it already.
The reality is that even if Zimmerman were proven not guilty, his life is ruined and someone will end up killing him. He will always fear for his life. Thanks, especially, to Al Sharpton, The Black Panthers, et al. The race baiters who will not let it go and do their own people no justice at all.
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04-01-2012, 10:00 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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How will it possibly help Zimmerman's case if it can be shown that Trayvon was the one yelling for help?
If Trayvon has no signs of a scuffle (including offensive wounds), wouldn't that point to some other cause of Zimmerman's injuries? Such as injuring himself to make it look like there was a just cause for him to kill someone?
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he had no time to INJURE himself before cops arrived ,pure speculation, which is exactly what the blacks will say ,oh he had someone punch him and he bashed his head on the ground ,puleeze ! maybe he was yelling for help when he saw that roscoe pointed at him.
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04-01-2012, 08:41 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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That's what I would be asking. The Coroner said that there was no signs of a struggle on Trayvon's body except for the gunshot wound. So, yes, why would he be screaming?
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Looking at gun pointed at him?
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04-01-2012, 08:47 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Looking at gun pointed at him?
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Could be, but we know there is a scuffle going on at the time of the screams, as per an eye witness who corroborated Zimmerman's story.
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04-01-2012, 09:05 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
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Looking at gun pointed at him?
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My thoughts exactly.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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04-01-2012, 08:56 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
911 Calls
Not sure if this link was posted earlier, so sorry if it's a repeat. It's the most complete audio of the 911 calls I've heard. At about 2:15 minutes in, it DOES sound like Zimmerman gets out of his truck and closes the door and it sounds like he's walking. At that point the 911 operator asks him not to follow Trayvon. I found it odd that he didn't want to give the operator his personal information.
11:43 minutes in, a woman says that there's a guy "on top" with a white t-shirt, presumably referring to Zimmerman since Trayvon was wearing a gray hoodie.
About 21:30, a woman says that she saw them "wrestling" before the shot. Very sad call, sounds like an older woman, very upset because a "young boy" has been killed. Cries (a LOT) and says that she would have helped if she could've. Her call is very long...and the 911 operator does a great job of calming her down and is exceedingly patient.
32:23 - a couple of kids call in--the "brother" to the caller says: "...I saw a man laying on the ground that needed help that was screaming and then I was gonna' go over there to try and help him but my dog got off the leash so I went and got my dog and then I heard a loud sound [and] the screaming stopped."
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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04-01-2012, 11:50 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
Thank you for the kind words, tstew.
It's been 16 years now. She was 18-years-old. Her mother has had a hollow look in her eye all these years....almost as though the lights went out inside her. It's been very sad in that the family feels that no real investigation was ever done.
So, this is why I have such empathy for the families of slain loved ones.
I do not think that splashing anybody's brush with the law on the media is conducive to all involved. It causes doubtful disputations over conjecture of the life of the victim and of the perpetrator...and what we have here is purely that...conjecture. I do not consider much of the media to be trustworthy in their reporting of news. They have, in the past, left out so many important facts about a variety of issues that the American people should have been told about.
Trayvon Martin may have had a brush with the law, but there are many young men and women who make mistakes at that age and go on to straighten up their life and become productive citizens.
We will never know if Trayvon, my niece and other young men and women could have been won over to the Lord and lived on to a fruitful and productive life.
At that age, it could have been me. I grew up not knowing God and disobeying God in what little I did know. It was God's grace that I did not end up as one of these victims. I would have hated to know that my family might have endured public conjecture about my life.
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04-02-2012, 01:11 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE
Consider that the american media is solely owned by 6 corporations. If only the American people will consider that the media stories are sometimes written for a desired effect. Much critical information is left out to achieve that desired effect.
There was little to nothing written about my niece, thus it went down the memory hole and she is now forgotten.
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