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[CC1]

Originally Posted by Chan

I would have followed the founding fathers' advice and maintained a non-interventionist policy. However, once Hitler started across the Atlantic toward the United States I would have called on Congress to declare war.

That would have been to little too late. Don't forget that at the time the USA was not considered the world's top military power as it became after the war.

If Hitler had conquored Europe and Africa and had all of those resources at his disposal he would have been almost impossible to conquor. As it was we barely defeated him.

I am so glad you posted what the isolationist view actually means in real world terms. You have shown what a nutty unworkable view it is.

Originally Posted by CC1

That would have been to little too late. Don't forget that at the time the USA was not considered the world's top military power as it became after the war.

If Hitler had conquored Europe and Africa and had all of those resources at his disposal he would have been almost impossible to conquor. As it was we barely defeated him.

I am so glad you posted what the isolationist view actually means in real world terms. You have shown what a nutty unworkable view it is.

Lincoln's Secretary of State William Seward (the man who bought Alaska from Russia) responded to France's request for the United States to help Poland by defending, "our policy of non-intervention—straight, absolute, and peculiar as it may seem to other nations." I agree with his statement. The policy that had been America's from the days of the founding fathers (whose memories your interventionist views spit upon) is indeed straight, absolute, and peculiar to other (interventionist) nations.

Why do you have such utter contempt for the founding fathers and their view of foreign policy?

[Digging4Truth]

There is a difference between isolationism and non-interventionism but those lines are being blurred as to paint non-interventionists as isolationists.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Chan

Why do you have such utter contempt for the founding fathers and their view of foreign policy?

Indeed... let's call it like it is.

Those who want to leave portions of the constitution need to stop saying "Y'all are crazy... we don't see it that way... I disagree with you" etc.

They need to say it like it is.

Go ahead and say "I wholeheartedly disagree with the non-interventionism of the Constitution and feel that it needs to be changed"

Then do what you have to do to change the constitution.

Until then... don't knock those who try to uphold it in the face of constant disregard for the document which is the law of the land.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Indeed... let's call it like it is.

Those who want to leave portions of the constitution need to stop saying "Y'all are crazy... we don't see it that way... I disagree with you" etc.

They need to say it like it is.

Go ahead and say "I wholeheartedly disagree with the non-interventionism of the Constitution and feel that it needs to be changed"

Then do what you have to do to change the constitution.

Until then... don't knock those who try to uphold it in the face of constant disregard for the document which is the law of the land.

You sound like the nuts that end up in jail for not paying Federal income tax because you believe it is illegal.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Chan

Lincoln's Secretary of State William Seward (the man who bought Alaska from Russia) responded to France's request for the United States to help Poland by defending, "our policy of non-intervention—straight, absolute, and peculiar as it may seem to other nations." I agree with his statement. The policy that had been America's from the days of the founding fathers (whose memories your interventionist views spit upon) is indeed straight, absolute, and peculiar to other (interventionist) nations.

Why do you have such utter contempt for the founding fathers and their view of foreign policy?

Why do you have utter contempt for reality?

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by CC1

You sound like the nuts that end up in jail for not paying Federal income tax because you believe it is illegal.

If you say so.

I have no idea where you gather that conclusion from what I said... but...

???

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by CC1

Why do you have utter contempt for reality?

What does the Constitution REALLY say then?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by CC1

Why do you have utter contempt for reality?

CC1, pragmatism???? That's what's important?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

CC1, pragmatism???? That's what's important?

So you think that our participation in WWI and WWII was against the constitution and illegal?

Interesting that so many disagree with you. I didn't notice the Supreme court ruling those were unconstitutional back then or since.

You guys are a fringe element living in a fantasy world. A fantasy world that would be disasterous in reality.