Planned Parenthood Plans 40 Days of Prayer (L)

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Originally Posted by Titus2woman

All this talk about people deciding when a fetus becomes a human is just so much blabber... Since we don't make humans what we think is irrelevant. God either makes a human when egg meets sperm or he makes one when it breathes it's first breath, we may never know which one but most of us seem to believe it is at conception. I just can't fathom a God who says "Now that you have wonderful medical interventions that can most likely save a baby born at 24 weeks it becomes human then'. Or 'Well... yes, fetuses become more attractive to adult humans at about 18 weeks gestation so it is then they will become human'- Pish-posh. In less developed countries any baby born before 35 weeks is at serious risk of death simply from prematurity.

So with those thoughts in mind I agree with those who believe a fetus is a person at conception. And no I don't have any trouble identifying a cell mass as human. It contains every particle of DNA necessary to become a full person and will if not interrupted.

I simply believe that there are times when a woman's right to live or her right to not be victimized trumps a fetuses right to live. I don't try to fool myself into believing that it is not really 'a person' that is being killed as there is nothing else it would have been if not killed. I still believe that there are times when it may be killed and God would not disagree. I do not believe God sees death the same way we do as evidenced by the fact that 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. That is 20% God could save if he chose.

And I do not only support removing a fetus when it would have a better chance of life outside the womb. For certain reasons I believe it is a woman's right to have a fetus removed if it will for 100% certain die.

I strongly believe that we should set standards for what trumps the life of an unborn and we should give it the weight that any such terrible thing deserves, not treat is like another day at the office. Abortion on demand is horrible and should be repealed. Trying to justify by saying it's too hard to know who is a candidate is just hot real... We insert ourselves into all kinds of other medical decisions and make people get extensive documentation including psychiatric evaluation and serious medical screening before such simple things as weight loss surgery or other controversial procedures.There is no reason it could not be done for elective TOP when an emergent situation is not presenting.

We need to bust the myth that it won't work or it's an all or nothing deal where there will either be no elective TOP ever for anyone anywhere or there will be at will abortion to the tune of millions a year. It is this attitude and stonewalling that has kept Christians from making any legal headway because most people are not crazy enough to think for one minute that they would let their wives, mothers, sisters, aunts. cousins, or friends die carrying a baby that can not live, or make a child carry a child of rape or incest or any of the other reasonable reasons for terminating a pregnancy.

So it is not just a political position while fetuses are killed for reasons as simple as 'this isn't a good time, I have another semester in college', 'we didn't want a pregnancy until after the big wedding'... 'my dress won't fit if I'm pregnant', 'My husband and I only wanted two kids, three is too many' or any of the other really lame reasons I've heard over the years. We have some patient that have had six... count 'em SIX terminations... 'the pill makes me nauseous'... 'I don't like using condoms' ... 'he refuses to wear a condom'...

Time for reality or bust... so far IMO the Church has chosen bust.

Here's a few simple facts:
God has never said when a fetus becomes human. He's never said it's at conception. He's never said it's at first breath. He's never even said it's not somewhere in between.

God has said it's wrong to murder but nowhere is it written that abortion equates to murder. God has never even said it's wrong to abort an unborn. To sum it all up, the scriptures and God himself are both totally silent when it comes to the issue of abortion.

2ndly, my position has nothing to do with moving the goal posts for when a fetus becomes human. Medical advancements that can allow a fetus to leave the womb early and still survive don't mean I need to start classifying that fetus as a human just because we found a way to let it leave the womb. It's still a fetus in this case, it's just a fetus living outside the womb. It will still become a human at the same developmental milestones as a fetus living inside the womb.