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If human life starts at conception why is it not customary to have funerals and memorial services for miscarriages?
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They sometimes are and many times there is no funeral for adults. Funerals are a social custom (and a huge business) driven by the need to say goodbye to a loved one. Since no one but the mother has met the child inside her she usually chooses to grieve privately or alone with her husband.
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Also, if human life really begins at conception then why aren't names given before birth?
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Where have you been froggy? Invitations to baby showers now come with baby names! However, since we culturally choose names to reflect gender most couples keep two choices and only choose once gender is known at about 16 weeks. Many more however choose gender neutral names and give them as soon as they know they are pregnant sometimes changing spelling for boy/girl.
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Also, why is it that not one society has ever counted abortion to be equal with murder?
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Simply not true.
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Could it be that deep down people feel the unborn is something different than the born?
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I think people outside the immediate family feel less attached to the unborn because they have not seen them. Some people have a hard time with God for the same reason.
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In my opinion if you want to eliminate abortion then you are going to have to make people really believe that there is no difference between the unborn and the born. You are going to have to start giving names as soon as pregnancy is confirmed. You are going to have to start holding burial services for unborns. So here's the problem, Christians want everyone to act like unborns are people when it comes to abortion but they haven't been acting like unborns are people in any way for 2000 years and have only actually been equating abortion to murder for maybe the last 100 years.
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Legal abortion has made an 'in your face' proposition of what was once a private matter between a woman and her doctor. Political candidates are elected or not based on their stance for or against it. Before abortion was legal procedures were done that were technically the same thing, however they were done for medical reasons. There were (and still are) also abortion practitioners who were unlicensed and served prostitutes and other women in cities. So there have always been ways that some women could get an abortion... It is still much the same today. Our million plus elective TOPs are still going to women in urban areas while those who live rurally often do not have a provider of abortion services for hundreds of miles. Because of the stigma of 'legal' abortions most regular gyns will not terminate a pregnancy even for medical reasons but refer to an abortion provider unless there is a fetal demise. The whole thing has become quite a mess that may never be resolved until Jesus comes back.
Unfortunately it is a mess in a way that does not well serve women on either end. The scales of balance have tipped far right and left on this issue... it would be nice to see them level off awhile. Try just a minute to see other points here and be open to them. Of course the ' a woman should be willing to die to give life ' stance always makes me want to tip the scale the other way by just denying a fetus is human. But now I've come to a place where I feel I can be more honest with myself and say; 'yes a fetus is human and there are circumstances when a mothers life/health/sanity trump that fetuses right to live.' That allows me to see many abortions as wrong and a few as right without denial or a mental snow storm.
Not necessarily trying to change your mind frog, it seems pretty made up... but just saying there may be other information you want to consider before you try to change someone else;
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