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Old 05-31-2012, 08:48 PM
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Except a few, I don't think they are UPC though... I think the largest group that is OP, is associated with Branhamites.
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The episode I watched tonight was a repeat, but, he was with a man named Elmer Miller who was a Pentecostal Minister. It showed him witnessing to Mose and also showed Mose at a service. He said he was "touched" by the service and then went on to visit a "Charismatic" Faith Healer who is Ex-Amish.
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The episode I watched tonight was a repeat, but, he was with a man named Elmer Miller who was a Pentecostal Minister. It showed him witnessing to Mose and also showed Mose at a service. He said he was "touched" by the service and then went on to visit a "Charismatic" Faith Healer who is Ex-Amish.
OK. Elmer Miller is (or at least was a few years ago) UPC. I met him about ten years ago.
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The episode I watched tonight was a repeat, but, he was with a man named Elmer Miller who was a Pentecostal Minister. It showed him witnessing to Mose and also showed Mose at a service. He said he was "touched" by the service and then went on to visit a "Charismatic" Faith Healer who is Ex-Amish.
I happened to catch that episode last night. While the "Pentecostals" (UPC or not) were certainly treated with respect I can understand Mose's reluctance to help those attempting to escape the Amish culture get right back in with another which is also fairly closed to "the world", though not as much. In the end it was touching to watch him deal with some of his past demons.

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The episode I watched tonight was a repeat, but, he was with a man named Elmer Miller who was a Pentecostal Minister. It showed him witnessing to Mose and also showed Mose at a service. He said he was "touched" by the service and then went on to visit a "Charismatic" Faith Healer who is Ex-Amish.
yep, that's the episode that I watched. They clearly identified them as Pentecostals, but never said UNITED Pentecostals.

They did end the show with Mose counseling with a Charismatic faith healer about the abuse he had endured under his Amish father. It's no wonder the poor man left like he did. I don't know that you could say it was because he was Amish as much as it was just because his father was plain old abusive. Beating a child until his blood runs down his legs and into his shoes is abuse and I don't what religion you are. That's just a fact!
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Here is more about Mose. He was in the cast of Amish in the city. And I have seen the other documentaries he talks about. http://amishinthecitymose.com/about/

He lives an hour North of us, in Columbia, MO where my wife lived when I met her, though I don't know that I ever met him.
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yep, that's the episode that I watched. They clearly identified them as Pentecostals, but never said UNITED Pentecostals.

They did end the show with Mose counseling with a Charismatic faith healer about the abuse he had endured under his Amish father. It's no wonder the poor man left like he did. I don't know that you could say it was because he was Amish as much as it was just because his father was plain old abusive. Beating a child until his blood runs down his legs and into his shoes is abuse and I don't what religion you are. That's just a fact!
That is sick.
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That is sick.
Exactly! But that's what he said on the program happened to him as a child. People like that should be jailed - and I don't care what religion they are.
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Exactly! But that's what he said on the program happened to him as a child. People like that should be jailed - and I don't care what religion they are.
Yes, he said his Dad was a very violent man. He went into details off camera, some of the other men were crying when they put the camera's back on. Makes me wonder if some of them knew his Dad.
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