When Civil Government Declares War on the Church

[AreYouReady?]

Trouble is...it is not against the law to "lie" to the people.

It seems like every four years we are being lied to about what our politicians will do for us. We elect them and nothing changes for the better.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Trouble is...it is not against the law to "lie" to the people.

It seems like every four years we are being lied to about what our politicians will do for us. We elect them and nothing changes for the better.

Question: How can you tell if a politician is lying?

Answer: His/her lips are moving.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Funny thing is, you can't have the freedom you are talking about without the "ACLU" brand of freedom-- in the context of the U.S. Constitution.

ACLU has an agenda and it is not equal freedom for all!

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

yes, it is like i said in another thread you sorta pick the lesser of the two evils so to speak...

Ya, if you are lost. See the path a believer must follow;
it doesn't even require an explanation.
Refuse both evils.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ya, if you are lost. See the path a believer must follow;
it doesn't even require an explanation.
Refuse both evils.

right i have did that for years and not used my right to vote, problem is regardless of me voting or not one of these 2 men will become the leader of this country that effects me. (undeniable) so i either can stay passive and then accept what i never tried to change, or i can choose the one i agree more with ( regardless of winning or losing the election make a stand on what I do believe)

has nothing to do with "if your lost" that is just a stoopid saying. so refusing both evils doesnt make it go away , but at the end of the day one will reign over you, do you want the one who has some of the princibles you have, or do you want the one whodoesnt share any of the princibles you have.

Choose and choose wisly then do what God said todo pray for your leaders not refuse them.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by acerrak

right i have did that for years and not used my right to vote, problem is regardless of me voting or not one of these 2 men will become the leader of this country that effects me. (undeniable) so i either can stay passive and then accept what i never tried to change, or i can choose the one i agree more with ( regardless of winning or losing the election make a stand on what I do believe)

has nothing to do with "if your lost" that is just a stoopid saying. so refusing both evils doesnt make it go away , but at the end of the day one will reign over you, do you want the one who has some of the princibles you have, or do you want the one whodoesnt share any of the princibles you have.

Choose and choose wisly then do what God said todo pray for your leaders not refuse them.

Personally, I would reflect upon the level of involvement required in order for "them" to affect "me," which they do not, at present (deniable), and refuse to accept that you cannot change...anything-
-but assuming that one can make any "wise" choice in politics is to be deceived.

No choice you can make for president, or any other of the offices under satan, could reign over me, unless I was also lost in this area, and most of the people I know feel the same way. We have realized that any Dem/Rep vote is a vote for the same side, and consider politics in light of I Sam 8, when we really want to know what God said on the matter--and we continue to pray for them, and anyone else who is deceived.

A person must do what they believe is right, and I would never voice this pov in public, believing it pointless to throw pearls before swine; however, this is nominally a "believer's" forum, and I expect believers to be a bit more cognizant of the fact that satan is the head of their government, verified in many places in Scripture. "All these kingdoms you see before you are mine..."

It is ludicrous to expect any Gov to back the Church.
See the difference in just not voting v actively taking charge
in the areas supposed to be under the Gov aegis, but neglected.

[bbyrd009]

Please see "zombies," or let's just say that Jefferson would not be fooled,
by this thing you have that you call a Nation. Please vote your conscience.

"Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of the day: but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers too plainly proves a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing us to slavery." Thomas Jefferson

Today Jefferson's words might read, "An occasional act of tyranny may be excused as a momentary lapse of judgement by officials, but a continuous series of such acts pursued through both Dem and Rep administrations clearly proves there is a deliberate and systematic plan to reduce once-free Americans to slavery."

To be a zombie is to exist under the most onerous bonds of slavery...
The Trillion-Dollar Conspiracy, Jim Marrs

[bbyrd009]

Hopefully the casual reader, at least, may see that anyone invested
in the political system is deceived, according to God. Don't listen to that
slave with a mortgage, ok? Misery loves company.

You can have a life without Government,
and anyone who tells you otherwise is
lying or deceived, or more likely both.

Don't let them point to that one spot in the NT
that says to pray for your leaders, and ignore
the rest of Scripture. Please see
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...51#post1166051
up to post #108 for similar obfuscation, and note that when
all else fails, you'll get a pithy joke. Just ask them who owns their house.

[Dordrecht]

The Roman Catholic Church teaches against birth control and abortion.

Sure, all cults teach a few good things in order to get people sucked into them.
That's why Mormonism appeals to a lot of people, they seem to promote decent lifestyles...
.....in the mean time satan sucks them in.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Hopefully the casual reader, at least, may see that anyone invested
in the political system is deceived, according to God. Don't listen to that
slave with a mortgage, ok? Misery loves company.

You can have a life without Government,
and anyone who tells you otherwise is
lying or deceived, or more likely both.

Don't let them point to that one spot in the NT
that says to pray for your leaders, and ignore
the rest of Scripture. Please see
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...51#post1166051
up to post #108 for similar obfuscation, and note that when
all else fails, you'll get a pithy joke. Just ask them who owns their house.

They are called "meds". You apparently have forgotten to take them.