Creflo Dollar

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

When we bought our house, one of the upstairs rooms was first designated as a play room for our son. He was 4 at the time.

This play room was a mess of messes one day and we had people coming over to see the house. So we told him he needed to clean the play room up, which he had already done when we had asked before. He said he didn't want to. His mother made it clear to him he needed to clean it. I went outside to do some work outside, and when I came back in maybe 20 minutes later, he was standing in the play room still refusing to clean it up. So I asked him what he was supposed to be doing. He said he was supposed to be cleaning. I asked why he wasn't doing it and he again said he didn't want to. So I told him clearly that he was not listening to his mother and I and that rebellion would not be tolerated. I was going out to finsih up outside and if I came back in he had better be cleaning or he was getting a spanking.

So, I come back in maybe 15 or 20 later an dhe was still just standing in the room not cleaning. I asked him why he wasn't cleaning and he said he didn't want to. I reminded him of what I said about the spanking and he sai dhe didn't want a spanking. So I told him he was getting a spanking because he was being disobediant. So he got spanked. Then I got him to stop crying so had and told him he needed to clean the room. He said he didn't want to. So I told him he needed to clean the room and that if I came back and he wasn't cleaning, he was going to get another spanking.

He did not clean, so he got the same speech and a second spanking. He STILL said he didn't want to clean and wouldn't do it. So, he was given a THIRD spanking. A few minutes after this he finally decided it was time to clean up the room.

Using our words didn't convince him to do what was asked. Threats of not getting his toys didn't. Rebellion reared up in this sweet 4 year olds heart and it was not goign to be talked down. It had to be squashed.

Since that time we have not seen anywhere near that spirit of rebellion out of him. Say what you will, but I believe it is because he learned the hard way that we would not tolerate such attitude from him and that any such attitude would be met with force.

Nitehawk, even though we have rarely spanked our children, I'm NOT opposed to spanking, especially in the context of disciplining a rebellious child. I'm still confused as to why ANY Christian parent would support Creflo Dollar or any other Christian slapping or choking their child. A spanking and a beating are two different things. My husband was raised in an abusive home--they were whipped with a belt until blood ran down their legs, and whipped until they STOPPED crying, among other things. That's not "spanking"; that's abuse. Even if it's for a "good reason", it's still abuse.

It just baffles me when these news stories come up and it's like all parents who favor corporal punishment have to show solidarity for the parent over the child-victim, even if the punishment is obviously too harsh. Why? Denouncing violence and extreme behavior doesn't mean you have to denounce corporal punishment.