So Sexy Isn't Offensive?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Ya, we quickly get into too many different trains of thought and tangents on some of these subjects. Or as Ray Stevens might say, we start talking in parallel lines with will never intersect. LOL

And speaking of nude beaches, while they weren't nude beaches per say, but when we went to Jamaica there were a few (European) women who laid on the beach topless. That would normally be very distracting to me, except they were all in their 60's (or at least looked like they were). An extreme case where it went from distracting to laughable -or even blinding. LOL

lol

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Again, I beg to differ. Part of the problem is semantics. Your equating "sexy" with immodesty -and we would probably even disagree on the definition of immodesty in most cases.

But here is am example of what I am trying to describe. I believe this girl IS attractive, modest AND sexy. Do you disagree? What should she do to change her appearance if she is too sexy for you?

She is attractive, and modest... except for what looks like make-up on her face.... but she is not sexy.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Maybe, but again to me once "sexy" crosses a line toward being "offensive" it is no longer sexy. So I would never use those two words to describe the same person at the same time.

And God DID grant some people assets above and beyond what He granted others. There are a few women here who would have to wear a snowmobile suit to not be distracting.... does that mean they are obligated too?

Oh how I miss Rhoni in some of these discussions. LOL

Yeah, and the bigger the assets the smaller a male's brain becomes.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't know... Jesus saw a Samaritan woman at a well once. She had been married five times and was currently shacking up with a guy she wasn't married to. Jesus spoke to her. Jesus revealed a spiritual thirst in her. She had spent her life looking to quench her thirst for love in men... and she couldn't find it. He revealed that her answer was "living water". Then he revealed his identity to her and she immediately went to her home town and witnessed to everyone about him. Those she spoke to came to the well to see Jesus... and many believed.

Yep... the evangelist to that small town was a woman who had been married five times and was currently shacked up with a guy. I don't know what happened to her. I pray they eventually married and found happiness in Christ.

God doesn't see things like we see them. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying be open enough to see people as Jesus might see them. Sometimes we overreact in a righteously indignant tirade and alienate a lot of people from Christ because they see us as "beating up on" a lady over what she chose to wear. While they might agree that it was inappropriate... they're more concerned with how she was treated as a person. So... let's remember to behave like Jesus in moments like these. That's all I'm saying.

She was thirsty yes... I didn't disagree with that part... but not for Christ... and the woman at the well wasn't either... she was searching absolutely for something to fill the God shaped hole in her life... but there is nothing in that Scripture to indicate that she every realized that Christ would fill the thirst. She was thirsty, but nothing indicated thirsty for Christ.

Furthermore, you say she evangelized.... there is nothing in the Scriptures that says she ever accepted Christ, repented of her sins, or came to faith in Christ..... as far as we know, she died in her sins...... too many have made too many assumptions about this girl.

In regards to the gal in my office...she's thirsty, but not for Christ. She would have to realize her need for Christ first, to become thirsty for Christ.... right now, she's only thirsty.

Just like me... I was longing for something in my life... however, I had to realize my longing was for Christ, before my longing could be a longing for Christ.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

She was thirsty yes... I didn't disagree with that part... but not for Christ... and the woman at the well wasn't either... she was searching absolutely for something to fill the God shaped hole in her life... but there is nothing in that Scripture to indicate that she every realized that Christ would fill the thirst. She was thirsty, but nothing indicated thirsty for Christ.

Furthermore, you say she evangelized.... there is nothing in the Scriptures that says she ever accepted Christ, repented of her sins, or came to faith in Christ..... as far as we know, she died in her sins...... too many have made too many assumptions about this girl.

In regards to the gal in my office...she's thirsty, but not for Christ. She would have to realize her need for Christ first, to become thirsty for Christ.... right now, she's only thirsty.

Just like me... I was longing for something in my life... however, I had to realize my longing was for Christ, before my longing could be a longing for Christ.

Exactly his point!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Yeah, and the bigger the assets the smaller a male's brain becomes.

Hey! I represent that remark! lol

[tv1a]

The phrase " I couldn't get passed what a saw" says more about the observer than the person wearing the sexy outfit. I wonder why the person stared at the lady for 15-20 seconds. It takes at least 15 seconds of looking someone over to provide that much detail. Could it the moral outrage is tpa decoy for the real issue?

I know my wife would have an issue with me if described a woman as explicit as BR did. She would suggest my eyes look elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins

In my office we have a unique blend of folks. Many different departments share this floor, as we are part of a University and Medical Center of over 23,000 employees.

We do have a dress code, but in an organization this large, policing and enforcement is quite difficult if a supervisor or manager chooses to look the other way.

There are many times I am offended by what others wear... men and women... and I overlook it. But while getting coffee this morning, I just couldn't look past what I saw. A sheer blouse that was almost see through. With dress shorts, that were the length of hot pants.... top of the thigh. And they were somewhat baggy, so that when the young lady sits down, the whole world is her gynecologist.

I approached her supervisor (which is what we are told to do in cases like this) and mentioned that the employee's outfit was offensive. Her response was, "I don't see what's offensive. It's sexy, but not offensive."

I was in shock... I said, "Sexy is Offensive!!!!". But even beyond that, the work place is no place for sexy. I provided a copy of the dress code in black and white and said, no matter your opinion or mine, this is a violation of the rules.

But I couldn't believe my ears.... so people don't think sexy is offensive anymore????? I was raised that "sexy" is for private.... not public.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Exactly his point!

no it wasn't.... he said she was thirsty and thirsty for Christ.... She's thirsty but it's not for Christ... this gal is a Asian Buddhist..... she aint thirsty for Christ... just thirsty.

If I'm thirsty... then I'm just thirsty... I"m not thirsty for a specific thing until I identify what I'm thirsty for.

[Bro. Robbins]

Originally Posted by tv1a

The phrase " I couldn't get passed what a saw" says more about the observer than the person wearing the sexy outfit. I wonder why the person stared at the lady for 15-20 seconds. It takes at least 15 seconds of looking someone over to provide that much detail. Could it the moral outrage is tpa decoy for the real issue?

I know my wife would have an issue with me if described a woman as explicit as BR did. She would suggest my eyes look elsewhere.

In management... we must observe what staff are wearing...not only our staff, but also other staff... Why? because if I don't let my staff get away with something, but they see another getting away with it, it will come back to bite me in the tail. I have to be observant as one of my jobs as a manager is to police appearance.....

[Hoovie]

Very subjective. I guess I personally would not say anything, though.