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06-20-2012, 10:25 AM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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The Holy Ghost convicted you of everything, except paying your tithes, when its clearly stated in the Bible
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Of course...of course I would have paid my tithe if my preacher was part of the levitical priesthood. The levites had no land inheritance to raise their substance like the rest of the tribes did.
As it stands now, every one of us has the earnest of our inheritance with the Holy Spirit. Many preachers are bivocational. I have no qualms about pitching in for expenses but I do think the big buildings and high salaries go beyond what should be expected. UPC always expected the people to give of their substance and of their time. Why can't the preachers do the same? But that's another thread and one of those threads that go round and round. I cannot understand living off the gospel and asking people to pay for something that Christ freely gave to us.
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06-20-2012, 12:04 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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The Holy Ghost convicted you of everything, except paying your tithes, when its clearly stated in the Bible
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Circuncision is clearly stated in the bible as well.
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06-20-2012, 12:48 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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Circuncision is clearly stated in the bible as well.
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06-20-2012, 02:05 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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Circuncision is clearly stated in the bible as well.
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and your point ?
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06-20-2012, 05:55 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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more often than not they are a disaster and on a constant power trip, i can fill a book with their screw ups deadly and other wise.
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I'm sorry that your experience with children's services has been so bad. I have not ever found what you've said to be true. Because both of our sons are adopted through the state (not a private adoption), we've had LOTS of experience with the social services agencies. I can name 6 county agencies in two states that we have had extensive interaction with. Our experience has always been that the people who are working children's services have the best interest of the children at the fore-front almost 100% of the time.
We've also been foster parents, so we've seen the picture from both the view of foster parents as well as adoptive parents. Perhaps my view might be different if we had had experience with them investigating to see if they should remove our children from us. Thank the Lord we've never been on that side of the coin. But I have watched from our vantage point and seen CS work hard to keep children in their own homes while trying to help the parents do what they need to do to keep them. I've seen them bend over backwards for birth parents - so much so that as foster parents, we were sometimes frustrated by how quickly kids were returned to their parents. On the other hand, I have to tell you that most often when the kids were returned before they should have been, it was the judges who returned them - not the CS workers. They want to protect the kids!
I'm sure you can give me horror stories. I've read them too. But I'm here to tell you that in my experience, the BAD ones are far fewer than the GOOD ones!
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06-20-2012, 07:22 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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and your point ?
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Just because something is clearly stated in bible doesn't means it applies to us.
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06-20-2012, 07:38 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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Just because something is clearly stated in bible doesn't means it applies to us.
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Whut?
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06-20-2012, 08:05 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
double whut
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06-20-2012, 08:25 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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Whut?
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Surely, you don't believe just because something is stated in the bible that applies to us?
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06-20-2012, 08:33 PM
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Re: Creflo Dollar
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Surely, you don't believe just because something is stated in the bible that applies to us?
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I can agree to that. Circumcision certainly does not apply to me.
Tithing is not new testament although one can most certainly cheerfully give 10% of their income if they should take a notion to.
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