So Much Hurt On This Forum - Page 3

Sam · #21 06-22-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

...There are also great men who have jerks for saints and sometimes some of them get on here and vent.

Watch some and they will soon have trouble with their new pastor so.........

I think we all know people like that. Never satisfied at any church. They go to a new church and pretty soon they are offended and leave to find another church. Others just stop going to church all together because they find 'problems" at every church they move to.

We probably have some of each here. Some who have been hurt and driven from God by "bad" pastors, and others who are just malcontents, murmurers, complainers, troublemakers, tale bearers, etc

Sam · #22 06-22-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

"Sigh"

As as pastor I have so much pain! You cannot believe the hurt that saints do to us in ministry.

I wish they would pray through and get the Holy Ghost.

But we persevere in spite of what they do or say.

That is what you are meaning right?

not that they would "get the Holy Ghost" but that He would "get them."

BroJoe · #23 06-22-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

"Sigh"

As as pastor I have so much pain! You cannot believe the hurt that saints do to us in ministry.

I wish they would pray through and get the Holy Ghost.

But we persevere in spite of what they do or say.

That is what you are meaning right?

No, that's not what I was meaning.

BroJoe · #24 06-22-2012, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

Bro Joe,

Don't believe everything you are told by everyone.

Honestly, I've been told nothing.

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Sure there are jerks that are UPC pastors, jerks who are WPF pastors, Independent Jerks, and PAW jerks who are pastors.

I was referring to, as Jeff Arnold would so eloquently put, "For those of you that are on your legalistic journey into stupid-ville."

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There are also great men who have jerks for saints and sometimes some of them get on here and vent.

Sure.

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Watch some and they will soon have trouble with their new pastor so.........

Okay.

Love you Bro.

BroJoe · #25 06-22-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

I will be praying for y'all. I know some people have suffered a lot of pain. You may not see it, but all will be held accountable.

I really had to forgive, it took a while but I did. It wasn't the Pastor in my case.

Thank you for pointing that out as well, sis.

It's not always the Pastor or ministers that deeply wound their people.

Sometimes it's the so called saints.

BroJoe · #26 06-22-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I think we all know people like that. Never satisfied at any church. They go to a new church and pretty soon they are offended and leave to find another church. Others just stop going to church all together because they find 'problems" at every church they move to.

We probably have some of each here. Some who have been hurt and driven from God by "bad" pastors, and others who are just malcontents, murmurers, complainers, troublemakers, tale bearers, etc

Those kind of people never fully understand that the Church is made up of...well, people.

Offenses will come.

I'm thankful for thicker skin.

ILG · #27 06-22-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BroJoe

I'm literally amazed.

So much hurt here. So much pain.

No, no one is posting it.

No, I'm not speaking to anyone in particular.

But I feel it in my spirit.

A lot of people, in fact I'll go as far to say most on this forum have been extremely hurt spiritually.

Spiritual Abuse is real folks. And I'm so sorry most of you have been mistreated and hurt by some ministers and pastors in the UPC.

That's very nice of you to say, Bro Joe. I'll just say it. I and many others here have been extremely hurt spiritually.

Dordrecht · #28 06-22-2012, 06:43 PM

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..... on your legalistic journey into stupid-ville...

I have to remember that one. Lol.

RandyWayne · #29 06-22-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

I will be praying for y'all. I know some people have suffered a lot of pain. You may not see it, but all will be held accountable.

I really had to forgive, it took a while but I did. It wasn't the Pastor in my case.

For me it isn't about forgiveness (done and done) so much as never EVER letting myself in the same situation that I was in before on account of being a teenager and not having any say at the time. I am an adult now and will never bow to another spiritual Führer and even subtly welcome meeting more "pod people" since I am now legally able to give them the old "what fer".

ILG · #30 06-22-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

For me it isn't about forgiveness (done and done) so much as never EVER letting myself in the same situation that I was in before on account of being a teenager and not having any say at the time. I am an adult now and will never bow to another spiritual Führer and even subtly welcome meeting more "pod people" since I am now legally able to give them the old "what fer".

RW,

I will never bow to another Fuhrer either and sometimes that gets me in trouble on my job.

Do you feel that your experiences/feelings now, of feeling the need to keep that wall up make you feel isolated? Sometimes, I just wish I could let that wall down and be a "believer" but it was never worth it the first time. Sometimes I think "Oh, I could be part of a community (and be tortured). I could have something that I was a part of (and have a bunch of demands made of me). I could be a part of like-minded (robotic) believers.

Ugh.