Destined To Reign

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

That's bogus.

One example. If future sins are forgiven when one believes, then why was Annanias and Sapphira struck dead for lying to the Holy Ghost?

If they were already forgiven, why would this have happened?

We were born into sin, shapen in iniquity. Yes, when we come to Christ and receive the new birth experience, the power of sin is broken over our lives but that's not a free ticket to live like the devil and yet still enjoy the grace of God and that power he gave to us.

I don't have the power over sin, but the Holy Ghost gives me the power over sin when He takes residence in my life.

Galatians 5:16 says "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh."

1 John 2:16 says "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."

You have a choice to walk in the Spirit, which will give you the power over sin. You also have the choice to walk in the lust of the flesh.



I do not believe He will be pleased if all of a sudden I started dressing in a provacative fashion, letting my hair grow long, etc.

Here's the reason why. If I were to do that, it would only be out of a spirit of rebellion.

Some things I'm told to do that I don't agree with. For example, no shorts for men. I'm not personally convicted for that. I believe that if a lady can wear a skirt to her calf or below her knee, then I should be able to wear shorts the same length.

But I obey my Pastor out of obedience. I believe a spirit of obedience is much better than a spirit of rebellion.

(By the way, I love my Pastor very much and he is far from a control freak.)

Bottom line. If you feel that dressing any way you want doesn't matter to the Lord, that's between you and Him. I'm not placing myself as the judge between you and your convictions. All I can say is that, personally, I feel God is pleased when I dress modestly, when my speech is clean, and when I'm living holy.

Godliness is profitable.

if god hasn't forgiven all future sin what does heb 10:12 mean?

12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

i haven't finished the book but christ was judged for sin once.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I don't know DM, I think it's hard to live for God without some personal standards.

For instance, if Friday night finds me getting drunk and sleeping around with a few of my closest friends,

Sat finds me laying on the couch with a hangover watching porn on Dish and snorting coke,

Sun most likely will not find me in a proper state to worship God,

Just saying.

"My life is my message." ~ Gandhi

like i told bro joe. prince does not condone sin. he argues that radical grace makes you fall in love with jesus and overcome sin. i am just saying that standards as a means of earning righteousness is nonbiblical. not condoning sin at all, but i was mainly referring to hair, pants, jewelery and makeup.

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

like i told bro joe. prince does not condone sin. he argues that radical grace makes you fall in love with jesus and overcome sin. i am just saying that standards as a means of earning righteousness is nonbiblical. not condoning sin at all, but i was mainly referring to hair, pants, jewelery and makeup.

I'm telling you bro, Dr. Bernard explains all of your inquiries in that video series I posted. He explains it much better than I can.

Standards always point back to the condition of the heart. I follow and have standards because of my relationship with Jesus, not because I'm trying to attain righteousness. Jesus is my righteousness. My righteousness is as filthy rags.

[BroJoe]

It's amazing to me that anyone who has any types of boundaries, any type of standards about clothing, conduct, and speech, people automatically begin to cry legalism.

I can't say this enough. It's the condition of my heart and the relationship with Jesus that drives me to live holy.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

I'm telling you bro, Dr. Bernard explains all of your inquiries in that video series I posted. He explains it much better than I can.

Standards always point back to the condition of the heart. I follow and have standards because of my relationship with Jesus, not because I'm trying to attain righteousness. Jesus is my righteousness. My righteousness is as filthy rags.

i believe I watched that series several months ago. But even bro Bernard is now talking about apostolic "identity". standards are about identity not biblical holiness.

[tv1a]

Gotta love people who can articulate intelligently about a book they haven't read. Still waiting for that person to show up.

Originally Posted by BroJoe

In other words, it doesn't matter if I sin, it doesn't matter if I'm in the will of God, the grace supercedes and makes it all better for me.



You cannot earn righteousness, Romans 5 outlines this pretty well.




My personal standards are to keep me separate from the world and to please the Lord.

I will not say people who do not follow holiness are going to hell. But I will say that it is probably not pleasing to the Lord.

That's really what we should want to do...is please the Lord.

Remember, my good works are not counted to me as righteousness, but my good works are because of the debt that I owe Him. (See Romans 4:4)

[tv1a]

Legalism as defined by Paul in Galatians the the imposition of non-biblical mandates as a requirement for salvation.

Legalism is the imposition of one's personal convictions (for the lack of a better word) on another person.

Legalism is the selective application of principles.

Paul says legalism is demonic. He asked the Galatians who put a spell on them to turn from faith in the power of the cross.

When you judge another's relationship with God based your personal convictions you are a legalist.

Originally Posted by BroJoe

It's amazing to me that anyone who has any types of boundaries, any type of standards about clothing, conduct, and speech, people automatically begin to cry legalism.

I can't say this enough. It's the condition of my heart and the relationship with Jesus that drives me to live holy.

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Gotta love people who can articulate intelligently about a book they haven't read. Still waiting for that person to show up.

Thank you for your meek reply and correcting me.

Romans Chapter 3, not Romans Chapter 5. My mistake, will you forgive me?

[BroJoe]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Legalism as defined by Paul in Galatians the the imposition of non-biblical mandates as a requirement for salvation.

Legalism is the imposition of one's personal convictions (for the lack of a better word) on another person.

Legalism is the selective application of principles.

Paul says legalism is demonic. He asked the Galatians who put a spell on them to turn from faith in the power of the cross.

When you judge another's relationship with God based your personal convictions you are a legalist.

I agree .

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

That's bogus.

One example. If future sins are forgiven when one believes, then why was Annanias and Sapphira struck dead for lying to the Holy Ghost?

If they were already forgiven, why would this have happened?

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

if god hasn't forgiven all future sin what does heb 10:12 mean?

12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

i haven't finished the book but christ was judged for sin once.

second quote bump for bro joe

Joseph Prince says that annanias and saphira were not christians. they are referred to in acts as "there was a man named annanias" whereas to christians the book of acts would say, "there is a disciple named...". The name of annanias means grace, but when saphira is added it means mixing grace with law because the law was written on saphire stone. christ was judged for the sins of believers, there is no more judgement for believers. all of our future sins were forgiven at repentance and faith in christ. Knowing that your sins are forgiven should empower you to live above sin.