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07-02-2012, 08:40 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
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I agree with the use of force, violence, killing to preserve life, only when necessary.
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So let me get this straight. When the police go to arrest somebody if that person resists they should just let them go unless they are threatening the cops life.
You are so out of touch with reality you make Al Gore look on top of things! (J/K - sort of) 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-02-2012, 08:41 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
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Originally Posted by CC1
So let me get this straight. When the police go to arrest somebody if that person resists they should just let them go unless they are threatening the cops life.
If so you are so out of touch with reality you make Al Gore look on top of things! (J/K - sort of) |
I have a feeling you didn't think your statement through very carefully before posting it. At least I hope that is the case.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-02-2012, 08:49 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
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I have a feeling you didn't think your statement through very carefully before posting it. At least I hope that is the case.
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No, I listed a clear escalation from force, to violence, to killing, only when necessary.
If it is necessary for a cop to use force when dealing with a person resisting arrest, the cop should use overwhelming force to efficiently perform his duties.
However, overwhelming force does not mean kill.
Remember when the Oakland Subway Police shot and killed a man that was handcuffed and laying on his stomach BEFORE he was shot?
That was unnecesary.
Most cases of police brutality that see the light of headlines are headlines because the cops involved did not practice proper judgment.
I question the judgment of tasering a mentally ill person. She could have died, then what?
She died outside of church because she wouldn't/couldn't stop beating her tambourine?
See the lunacy in that?
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07-02-2012, 09:09 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Well I bet the Baptists will be more accepting of us Pentecostals now that we have ceased from casting devils out of people and have embraced tasing the idiots instead.
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According to the article:
Myers said, “She was not filled with the Holy spirit. She was not being very Christianly and this is why the folks decided to get her out as soon as possible.”
So...why didn't the elders and saints just converge on her and anoint her with oil and pray for her instead?
Just a thought....
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07-02-2012, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
According to the article:
Myers said, “She was not filled with the Holy spirit. She was not being very Christianly and this is why the folks decided to get her out as soon as possible.”
So...why didn't the elders and saints just converge on her and anoint her with oil and pray for her instead?
Just a thought....
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You don't deliver people that don't want deliverance.
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07-02-2012, 09:14 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
Lindell Cooley visited a local AofG church last year. My family and I were seated in the front row. A lady came down in the middle of service whooping and hollering flinging her arms all over the place. She was a huge distraction. The preacher and the ushers didn't do anything. After a few minutes, I silently muttered prayer under that she would be slain in the Spirit. I said it half-joking. I few seconds later, I looked over, and she was on the floor. She stayed there until the service was over.
I like the taser idea better.
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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07-02-2012, 09:14 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
No, I listed a clear escalation from force, to violence, to killing, only when necessary.
If it is necessary for a cop to use force when dealing with a person resisting arrest, the cop should use overwhelming force to efficiently perform his duties.
However, overwhelming force does not mean kill.
Remember when the Oakland Subway Police shot and killed a man that was handcuffed and laying on his stomach BEFORE he was shot?
That was unnecesary.
Most cases of police brutality that see the light of headlines are headlines because the cops involved did not practice proper judgment.
I question the judgment of tasering a mentally ill person. She could have died, then what?
She died outside of church because she wouldn't/couldn't stop beating her tambourine?
See the lunacy in that?
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German, I apologize that I misread your post. Upon reading it again I see what you were saying. The first time I took it to mean you did not believe in using force unless life was being threatened. Whew, I am glad I read wrong and you are not that far gone!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-02-2012, 09:15 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
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Originally Posted by houston
You don't deliver people that don't want deliverance.
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Zactly! 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-02-2012, 09:19 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
We don't know the backstory. I would bet this wasn't the first time she caused a disturbance. There are some situations where you don't want to draw attention to that type of behavior. She wasn't there to be saved or be healed. She was there to cause a scene. I'm sure the woman had plenty times to ask for deliverance.
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
According to the article:
Myers said, She was not filled with the Holy spirit. She was not being very Christianly and this is why the folks decided to get her out as soon as possible.
So...why didn't the elders and saints just converge on her and anoint her with oil and pray for her instead?
Just a thought....
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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07-02-2012, 09:20 PM
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Re: Tazed Church Tambourine Player (L)
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I agree with the use of force, violence, killing to preserve life, only when necessary.
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hard to beleieve you were ever military,hope you aint allegedly defending us still !
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