Is there anyone who is Apostolic anymore?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I think that would be great... in the dark ages, maybe not.

OK... so in my perfect world it is a white clapboard buliding with a big wide center isle and old fashioned short pews set on an angle on both sides so you can see more of a person then the backs of their heads. Many elders speak and preach in turn, others are free to ask questions which are respectfully and thoughtfully answered. Children sleep peacefully beneath the pews or listen quitely. There is a picnic on the grass afterward where families visit and share friendship. Only monies needed for maintainence and the needy is collected and is given freely. Those who have surplus of anything contribute it and it is welcomed and used for those with a need. Young people are grown up and sent to spread the gospel, elder people, the disabled and the poor are tenderly cared for. Disagreements are never worth grudge and are settled quickly and peacefully.

I am sure by now many of you are dying laughing... but it could happen.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

OK... so in my perfect world it is a white clapboard buliding with a big wide center isle and old fashioned short pews set on an angle on both sides so you can see more of a person then the backs of their heads. Many elders speak and preach in turn, others are free to ask questions which are respectfully and thoughtfully answered. Children sleep peacefully beneath the pews or listen quitely. There is a picnic on the grass afterward where families visit and share friendship. Only monies needed for maintainence and the needy is collected and is given freely. Those who have surplus of anything contribute it and it is welcomed and used for those with a need. Young people are grown up and sent to spread the gospel, elder people, the disabled and the poor are tenderly cared for. Disagreements are never worth grudge and are settled quickly and peacefully.

I am sure by now many of you are dying laughing... but it could happen.

sounds like the mellinium reign

[Jabez]

Originally Posted by BroJoe

You think I'm gonna flop out because I don't agree with wearing no shorts and loose my salvation over a spirit of rebellion? While wearing shorts won't cost me my salvation, a spirit of rebellion will.

Do you really know what rebellion is? Just because you obey what men in the church think, that does not mean that you are obedient to God.

Originally Posted by BroJoe

And I believe with all my heart that GOD sent me to my Man of God and until I'm released I'm in utter obedience.
I'm hanging on tight and I'll let my Pastor and leaders give an account to God for any non-biblical issues...

And who decides when you are released? Who gives you the say so? The blessings?
You think God sent you to a man of God and you have got to be under his total obedience? You do not realize how unscriptural your statement really is. Paul says in Galatians 1: 10. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? For if I yet please men, I should not be a servant of Christ.

If you are trying to be a man pleaser, you are in rebellion to Christ and you are totally against what Christ has called you to be.

According to this verse of Scripture, your own statement has put you outside of Christ. You are not serving Christ, but you are utterly serving your pastor.

Romans 8:14 says if you be led by the Spirit of God, ye are the sons of God.
Galatians 4 teaches that as long as you are a child you are under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the Father. But when you truly know Christ like you should know Christ, you will be free to serve Him directly and not have to ask anybody what to say or do.


Now that is Apostolic because it is taught by an Apostle named Paul.

[johnny44]

Originally Posted by Cindy

I wonder why people are proclaiming others as backsliders, because they leave a certain organization or change outward appearances. When there are those saints, preachers, and pastors. That are sinning by, fornication, adultery, lying, gossiping, etc.

OUCH!!!

[johnny44]

Originally Posted by ilg

i'm not apostolic anymore. Shrug.

lord have mercy!!!

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by jabez

do you really know what rebellion is? Just because you obey what men in the church think, that does not mean that you are obedient to god.




And who decides when you are released? Who gives you the say so? The blessings?
You think god sent you to a man of god and you have got to be under his total obedience? You do not realize how unscriptural your statement really is. Paul says in galatians 1: 10. For do i now persuade men, or god? Or do i seek to please men? For if i yet please men, i should not be a servant of christ.

If you are trying to be a man pleaser, you are in rebellion to christ and you are totally against what christ has called you to be.

According to this verse of scripture, your own statement has put you outside of christ. You are not serving christ, but you are utterly serving your pastor.

Romans 8:14 says if you be led by the spirit of god, ye are the sons of god.
Galatians 4 teaches that as long as you are a child you are under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. But when you truly know christ like you should know christ, you will be free to serve him directly and not have to ask anybody what to say or do.


Now that is apostolic because it is taught by an apostle named paul.

Tell it!!!!

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

OK... so in my perfect world it is a white clapboard buliding with a big wide center isle and old fashioned short pews set on an angle on both sides so you can see more of a person then the backs of their heads. Many elders speak and preach in turn, others are free to ask questions which are respectfully and thoughtfully answered. Children sleep peacefully beneath the pews or listen quitely. There is a picnic on the grass afterward where families visit and share friendship. Only monies needed for maintainence and the needy is collected and is given freely. Those who have surplus of anything contribute it and it is welcomed and used for those with a need. Young people are grown up and sent to spread the gospel, elder people, the disabled and the poor are tenderly cared for. Disagreements are never worth grudge and are settled quickly and peacefully.

I am sure by now many of you are dying laughing... but it could happen.

Actually, we just began attending a church, and it is very similar to the scene you are describing T2W. The pastor is a teacher, and while he begins the teaching, the congregation are allowed to share their thoughts freely, and he welcomes any discussion. There is no tithe and offering, but a box in the back. The church operates a food bank, and a clothing area for homeless people, abused people, those who have lost things in fires, or just down on their luck. Last week a girl spoke at the church who is headed to Turkey with Campus Crusades to minister to the Muslims, and many of the church people are supporting her. A visitor to the church fell and broke her knee after only attending two services. All members of the congregation came by with more than enough food so that they can hardly close their refrigerator, and offered assistance in any way. And, regarding your desire for a "picnic on the grounds", every Sunday after service, everyone brings food and the entire church fellowships in the basement after service.

I don't believe that we'll ever find a utopic church building or church group here on earth, but I am thinking this one is coming pretty close to what James describes as pure religion...

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Jabez

Do you really know what rebellion is? Just because you obey what men in the church think, that does not mean that you are obedient to God.

And who decides when you are released? Who gives you the say so? The blessings?
You think God sent you to a man of God and you have got to be under his total obedience? You do not realize how unscriptural your statement really is. Paul says in Galatians 1: 10. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? For if I yet please men, I should not be a servant of Christ.

If you are trying to be a man pleaser, you are in rebellion to Christ and you are totally against what Christ has called you to be.

According to this verse of Scripture, your own statement has put you outside of Christ. You are not serving Christ, but you are utterly serving your pastor.

Romans 8:14 says if you be led by the Spirit of God, ye are the sons of God.
Galatians 4 teaches that as long as you are a child you are under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the Father. But when you truly know Christ like you should know Christ, you will be free to serve Him directly and not have to ask anybody what to say or do.


Now that is Apostolic because it is taught by an Apostle named Paul.

Great words! Hello Jabez.... glad to have you on board

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Heard a preacher with a mohawk who tore the house down.

Vandalism huh

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

I too would love to hear the answer to this Bro. Joe... because this is no hypothetical question...

I would like to hear his response as well.... but somehow I already know his answer from previous posts....

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Sadly all of this reminds me that for a time I also wanted to believe myself somehow pleasing God by doing the ridiculous instead of really doing the kingdom's work. I somehow let every bit of common sense be sucked out of my brain in order to fit in, stopped doing my own thinking, and blindly followed another hoping that somehow they had the key to heaven's door and if I just followed closely enough behind I'd make it in. And more sadly, they encouraged me to believe it to feed their own power hungry little egos.

Not my proudest moment and the reason I post in threads like this... just hoping that somewhere in what everyone is saying something will be said that wakes another and helps them connect with a God who is desperately seeking them.

I am with you on this one T2W!!!! I ran the rat race all my life trying to please every pastor and church with my family taking a back seat to all the fundraisers, and church functions I was a part of. Thank God I finally read the verse in James 1:27, and realized that a fundraiser to pay for the pastor's fancy vacation was not pure religion, according to James. The AP churches I have been a part of, for the most part, spend most of their money taking care of themselves, with the fancy cars, houses, vacations, buildings, musical equipment, and so on.

I am excited to finally be a part of a congregation that gets their hands dirty ministering to those in need in the community we live in.