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07-17-2012, 09:59 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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All she has accomplished is reducing the size of the church by 75%. Good luck with that fabulous salary with a church that runs 20 people! When will the epiphany come where she realizes she drove away the very people who were paying her salary?
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If the church owns rental property as was mentioned I am guessing her income is paid from that cash flow more than the tithes of this small of a church.
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07-17-2012, 10:03 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Maybe baby girl will read this thread and get her "epiphany"?
She must have read Naomi Klein's book "The Shock Doctrine" in which the ultra rich use the "blank slate" practice to remake a place into what they want it to be. 
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07-17-2012, 10:44 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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What happened there?
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Some American missionaries there opposed him and ended up insane. One native Thai pastor walked up to Bro C, who confronted the local guy about his adultery revealed to Bro C by God. Bro. C asked him "Are you living in adultery!?!?". The guy moved his mouth to say no, but God locked his jaws. For six months they were locked until he tracked down Bro. C, confessed (wrote it I guess) and was converted to Jesus Name/HG message.
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07-18-2012, 06:42 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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If the church owns rental property as was mentioned I am guessing her income is paid from that cash flow more than the tithes of this small of a church.
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That's what I was thinking.
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07-18-2012, 06:43 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Some American missionaries there opposed him and ended up insane. One native Thai pastor walked up to Bro C, who confronted the local guy about his adultery revealed to Bro C by God. Bro. C asked him "Are you living in adultery!?!?". The guy moved his mouth to say no, but God locked his jaws. For six months they were locked until he tracked down Bro. C, confessed (wrote it I guess) and was converted to Jesus Name/HG message.
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Why doesn't anything like that ever happen around here? 
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07-18-2012, 07:08 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Because if someone's jaw was locked after the pastor spoke to them here, that person would see a lawyer and sue the pastor. We love to sue in this country!
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07-18-2012, 07:10 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Because if someone's jaw was locked after the pastor spoke to them here, that person would see a lawyer and sue the pastor. We love to sue in this country!
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So God is keeping pastors from being sued? 
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07-18-2012, 07:23 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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If the church owns rental property as was mentioned I am guessing her income is paid from that cash flow more than the tithes of this small of a church.
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Since the church is a 501(c)(3) religious organization, I wonder if the following rules apply to the rental properties:
From IRS website -
Unrelated Business Income Tax
Even though an organization is recognized as tax exempt, it still may be liable for tax on its unrelated business income. For most organizations, unrelated business income is income from a trade or business, regularly carried on, that is not substantially related to the charitable, educational, or other purpose that is the basis of the organization's exemption. An exempt organization that has $1,000 or more of gross income from an unrelated business must file Form 990-T. An organization must pay estimated tax if it expects its tax for the year to be $500 or more.
The obligation to file Form 990-T is in addition to the obligation to file the annual information return, Form 990, 990-EZ or 990-PF. Each organization must file a separate Form 990-T, except title holding corporations and organizations receiving their earnings that file a consolidated return under Internal Revenue Code section 1501.
Inurement/Private Benefit - Charitable Organizations
A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3) organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a personal and private interest in the activities of the organization.
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07-18-2012, 07:28 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
I doubt very seriously this is 5013C organization. Might be incorporated by the State of Tennesee?
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07-18-2012, 07:38 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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I doubt very seriously this is 5013C organization. Might be incorporated by the State of Tennesee?
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Isn't a church required to be 501(c)3 if the members are allowed to deduct donations from their taxes?
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