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Old 08-04-2012, 02:38 AM
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Re: Blood Lust/The Fall of Man and Angel

God Bless you sis Sheila

I dont think we are here to shoot each other, we are here for fellowship and edification.
I believe if we claim to be Christians we should have the Spirirt of the One we claim to serve and treat each other as we would treat Christ.
We all see things in a certain light and I guess depending on where we are looking from, it makes us see things in a certain way. We need to be standing at the right angle to see the thing the right way. I know if there is a BIBLE QUESTION, there must be a BIBLE answer.
You have a good thought there my sister, however I dont think I agree with all that you have said. Maybe I could help just to shed a little bit more light on your thought. I am not attacking you or anything, but this is just fellowship where we could share thoughts and help each othre by the Grace of God.

Firstly Genesis is the seed book of the Bible we can find everything in the bible in seed form in Genesis.
And God has a pattern in writing His Word and many times He hides things and does not say everything in black and white, but it takes the TEACHING OF THE SPIRIT to bring out a HIDDEN TRUTH. If we are truly sincere and Honestly want to know the Truth and have a LOVE for His Word, I believe He will show us.

Secondly God's first decision is His final decision, and when He comes after that He does everything by that first way. and HE NEVER CHANGES HIS MIND ABOUT HIS WORD.

Thirdly God is Spirit and when He deals with His BRIDE He deals with her spiritually and everybody else looks at things naturally.

Okay to start off with in Genesis 2:8-9 God plants a garden IN Eden. and OUT of the GROUND he makes to grow every TREE, "pleasant to the sight", "good for FOOD"; then there is a second part to verse 9 which says "the TREE of LIFE also in the MIDST of the Garden, and the TREE of KNOWLEDGE of good and EVIL".
Now if you just read casually it seems almost as if all trees grow out of the ground and also that the 2 latter trees are part of the first group that are good for food, but if you look closely, it mentions the first group then adds the other two trees.
The first group of trees are natural trees , the last two trees are NOT VEGETATION, they are of a different kind.
Yes the Tree of Life was God in FORM, but to be MORE SPECIFIC, it was the DIVINE LAW/WORD of God.
"Man shall not live by bread alone(NATURAL) but by every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God(Spiritual)"

Now in Genesis 2:16 God says that Adam could eat of "of every tree of the Garden he may freely eat" then He says but not of the tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. Is God contracdicting Himself here? NO. He may eat of the natural trees, this is EVERY TREE, but not of this tree of KNOWLEDGE of Good and EVIL.

Already if you catch something you see that God is hiding His Mystery between NAtural and Spiritual and if you see God's pattern, He does that throughout the Bible.
He speaks natural/Spiritual.
Now the Act that Eve did at first was a Spiritual act that resulted in a natural ACt, but the real Sin happened in the Spiritual Realm. Because God is SPIRIT, and He always DEALS in the Spiritual. Watch and see throughout the Bible, He sees into the heart not the physical ACTS, because the physical acts is a reflection of the condition of our hearts.

Now ADAM was made in the IMAGE of God(Spirit Man) with God's attributes, but then the First time we see attributes of the Devil is when Cain is born(Murder, liar, Religious, Stubborn....) Something Happended. And what Happened is another topic altogether, but just to get to the point:
It was not the eating of meat that caused lust, and all these things, there was a fall from the image of God, and also there was an infusion of a BEASTLY NATURE into the Human RACE, this came via the Serpent. Because the Serpent was a beast who could TALK. Before the Serpent was judged, he was upright and he could talk, and he had all the knowledge of the principles of life. He was very close to the human being.

Now What God did in clothing Adam and Eve was because they tried to clothe themselves and hide their sin, and nakedness, but God knowing His Word, slew an innocent animal, and covered them, as a TYPE of What He would do in the future, when He would slay His only begotten Son and then ROBE a Church with the HOLY GHOST, not with MAN MADE RELIGION(fig leaves).

But anyway im just touching the surface, but maybe if you have anymore questions you may ask

God Bless you
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