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Old 08-04-2012, 06:20 AM
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:55 AM
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:56 AM
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Old 08-04-2012, 11:43 AM
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We found an attorney who will take this case but we don't have the funds to pay him. Found out money that was collected for the Church to buy some property in 2006 somehow the deed is in the name of the deceased Pastor and the one who is saying he is the new Pastor. May not be the only property like this. Makes a person wonder what else is askew.
Who collected the money to buy this property that is in the deceased Pastor's name, and, is there more property involved? So, the "boyfriend" owns some of the property, and, of course if he marries the "daughter" he gets all of it. What happens if he gets a new "girlfriend"? What will the daughter do then? WOW!! You can't make up this stuff. Forget watching "DALLAS"!!!

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Old 08-04-2012, 12:19 PM
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Who collected the money to buy this property that is in the deceased Pastor's name, and, is there more property involved? So, the "boyfriend" owns some of the property, and, of course if he marries the "daughter" he gets all of it. What happens if he gets a new "girlfriend"? What will the daughter do then? WOW!! You can't make up this stuff. Forget watching "DALLAS"!!!
Gee thanks. Now I have THAT theme running through my head.

Just watch. In two weeks the question everyone will be asking is "Who shot <name of pastors daughter boyfriend>?"
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:43 PM
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Who collected the money to buy this property that is in the deceased Pastor's name, and, is there more property involved? So, the "boyfriend" owns some of the property, and, of course if he marries the "daughter" he gets all of it. What happens if he gets a new "girlfriend"? What will the daughter do then? WOW!! You can't make up this stuff. Forget watching "DALLAS"!!!
The deceased Pastor ask the Church members to contribute the money so the Church could buy the property. Not sure if there is more that is not in the Church's name. Checking into that. My faith is being very much put to the test at this point.
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Old 08-04-2012, 04:09 PM
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Some of you may be familiar with this situation involving a pastor who recently passed away. He was a strong leader and didn't have a board. All decisions and finances were handled by him and his family. His daughter handled the finances of the church, some of which were invested to buy rental homes for extra income.

The pastor didn't have a successor in place as he held all power until he passed, even though he could hardly speak or walk in his final months. When he became incapacitated, his daughter held full power.

Well...a church vote was held for the daughter's choice to be pastor, and he was voted down. Last week she sent certified letters to all the families that weren't in agreement with her (a majority), and told them they were no longer welcome and were no longer considered members of the church. She essentially kicked them out of the church!

IMO, her strategy is to have another vote with the remaining families that voted with her! How sad to manipulate a good group of people to get what you want!

Anyway, last week she decided to give herself a $200 a week raise as church manager. She didn't need to ask for permission as she has absolute power to do as she pleases.

I hate to see what was once a great influential Apostolic church decline to this type of behavior and power struggle! A truly sad story of how absolute power can absolutely corrupt! This happens even in an Acts 2:38, Oneness, strict standards type church.

The church is no longer tied to any Apostolic organization, so there in nobody to help them get thru this problem. Other pastors that were close friends to the church are afraid to get in the middle of this church fight!
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Old 08-04-2012, 05:35 PM
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Rosie, you are a woman of few words for your first post! (and I have not met many of those in my life) Welcome to AFF.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:50 PM
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Rosie, a lot has happened since then. (And continues to happen every day) They did have another vote, men only, by invitation only. Women were not allowed on the property that night. It was 12-2, favoring Bro DF, (of course). It was overseen and carried out by the "Bishop" of OB. Since he won by such a landslide, there is going to be a big celebration Aug 25. Everyone is invited (although the "Bishop" from OB had already said in one of his rules, that no visitor, that has a home church, is allowed there.) Oh well, I guess being a Bishop you can make up the rules as you go along. I never did understand (as old as I am), what the requirements are to being a Bishop. I have only known a couple, and I always thought it was when a preacher gets so only he can't preach, and that may be right. Someone please let me know.
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To be a bishop

I think if you are still married to your original wife
and your kids are still in church,
and you exhibit the fruit of the Spirit
and are a teacher of The Word of God.
then you are in the realm of bishop.

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