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08-08-2012, 01:20 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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As some one put so eloquently. What good has this thread done? Pursue legal action? The Bible says we shouldn't take things to court. The main focus is lost in this situation. Bothe sides need to figure out what's more important. Winning the lost or getting in a peeing contest over power and property.
Lost souls are the real losers in this war.
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Your comments are not worth reading or answering. Grow up!!!!
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08-08-2012, 01:55 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by tv1a
As some one put so eloquently. What good has this thread done? Pursue legal action? The Bible says we shouldn't take things to court. The main focus is lost in this situation. Bothe sides need to figure out what's more important. Winning the lost or getting in a peeing contest over power and property.
Lost souls are the real losers in this war.
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Why are you so flippant and uncaring about this situation? There are people who have been truly hurt here. This is not about having, as you put it, a "peeing" contest.
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08-08-2012, 03:13 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Why are you so flippant and uncaring about this situation? There are people who have been truly hurt here. This is not about having, as you put it, a "peeing" contest.
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Maybe it takes someone who has gone through this type of thing before to understand the hurt that the saints of this church are feeling.
I do know this: What the devil meant to harm and destroy this church, God can use for his glory! Who knows? Maybe a seed is being sown for the greatest revival and church this city has ever known!
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08-08-2012, 03:16 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Got to look at the bigger picture. From what I read there huge Biblical infractions from both sides. Armchair commentators haven't offered sound biblical advise. My opinion is based on observation. If you aren't offering solutions, you're part of the problem. That's why I mention let the IRS handle the situation. Looks like both sides are intent winning thr battle but losing the war.
Sorry you feel intimidated by not conversing with me in the future. Drama quenns/kings and I don't converse well.
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What's your problem?? Why are you even on here? You sound like a very bitter person. Definitely not someone I will waste my time talking with again!!
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08-08-2012, 03:24 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Maybe it takes someone who has gone through this type of thing before to understand the hurt that the saints of this church are feeling.
I do know this: What the devil meant to harm and destroy this church, God can use for his glory! Who knows? Maybe a seed is being sown for the greatest revival and church this city has ever known!
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Very often, they will claim they too have been "hurt" and have simply risen above it, unlike pitiful little you. 
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08-08-2012, 03:36 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
They are fighting over buildings, money and power. Oh my.
It's all going to burn anyway. People are hurt. The best thing you can do to help healing is the right thing. That way when time passes, you won't have regrets. I care more about the lost than I do about a group of people fighting over trivial things. The leadership didn't have the foresight to establish a succession plan. Every good business has a plan in place in case of leadership change. This is the Father's business. His business is kingdom building. Yeah I'm flippant at grown babies fighting over things the world fights over.
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Why are you so flippant and uncaring about this situation? There are people who have been truly hurt here. This is not about having, as you put it, a "peeing" contest.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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08-08-2012, 03:49 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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They are fighting over buildings, money and power. Oh my.
It's all going to burn anyway. People are hurt. The best thing you can do to help healing is the right thing. That way when time passes, you won't have regrets. I care more about the lost than I do about a group of people fighting over trivial things. The leadership didn't have the foresight to establish a succession plan. Every good business has a plan in place in case of leadership change. This is the Father's business. His business is kingdom building. Yeah I'm flippant at grown babies fighting over things the world fights over.
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You don't care about the lost!! Give me a break. Do you honestly think we haven't run across your kind millions of time? And we sure don't feel intimidated by people like you. You arn't worth wasting time talking to!! 
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08-08-2012, 03:56 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by tv1a
They are fighting over buildings, money and power. Oh my.
It's all going to burn anyway. People are hurt. The best thing you can do to help healing is the right thing. That way when time passes, you won't have regrets. I care more about the lost than I do about a group of people fighting over trivial things. The leadership didn't have the foresight to establish a succession plan. Every good business has a plan in place in case of leadership change. This is the Father's business. His business is kingdom building. Yeah I'm flippant at grown babies fighting over things the world fights over.
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Then why are you wasting your time on this thread? Maybe you should be out "winning the lost".
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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08-08-2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Got to look at the bigger picture. From what I read there huge Biblical infractions from both sides. Armchair commentators haven't offered sound biblical advise. My opinion is based on observation. If you aren't offering solutions, you're part of the problem. That's why I mention let the IRS handle the situation. Looks like both sides are intent winning thr battle but losing the war.
Sorry you feel intimidated by not conversing with me in the future. Drama quenns/kings and I don't converse well.
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I've heard several solutions!!!
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08-08-2012, 04:02 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
The fine folks who stayed at this church, even when the elderly pastor was incapacitated, were TOO loyal in my opinion! I personally would have moved on when the pastor, because of age, could no longer physically function adequately, especially when dementia set in. I'm surprised that the members didn't request a new pastor! All I know is that they had the highest respect for him through the years, and didn't want to force him into retirement if he didn't want to.
That's why I say that these saints are the best of the best when it comes to loyalty!
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