A Wrecked Church!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by CC1

...Many of the problems in Pentecost have been because pastors pastor too long or insist on handing down a church to a family member both out of pride and financial consideration.

Some times the church is considered a "family business" and is handed down from father to son (or son-in-law) to keep it in the family. Some times those sons or sons-in-law do not have the vision, qualifications, burden etc of the father and things just go downhill.

[tv1a]

More importantly it lines up with the Bible.

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Did he explain how he can tell just by looking at pictures?



This is in line with your signature lines.

[Sister Alvear]

Back to the original subject. I would like to say I have known the ** family all my life. Brother ** preached my graduation service, visited Brazil, supported us for many years. I am very sad good people are going through this problem but I can assure you that neither Brother ** or Brother ** can do anything other than what we can do...pray...and that is the most important thing at this point. I hate things like this are discussed on the web for the guilty have their minds made up and the innocent suffer...Bishop was a good man I know he may have failed in getting someone before he passed however he is not alive to defend himself...

[AreYouReady?]

I know he was a good man...but he did know at some point during his elderly years that he would not live forever.

[Sister Alvear]

Sometimes it is hard to let go...and that must have been his problem...We are in the process of letting go in Brazil...let me tell you first hand it is VERY hard...but yes, it is the thing to do...we are not here forever....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Back to the original subject. I would like to say I have known the ** family all my life. Brother ** preached my graduation service, visited Brazil, supported us for many years. I am very sad good people are going through this problem but I can assure you that neither Brother ** or Brother ** can do anything other than what we can do...pray...and that is the most important thing at this point. I hate things like this are discussed on the web for the guilty have their minds made up and the innocent suffer...Bishop was a good man I know he may have failed in getting someone before he passed however he is not alive to defend himself...

Amen. Preachers are human not divine so we fail and age will affect us all.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Sometimes it is hard to let go...and that must have been his problem...We are in the process of letting go in Brazil...let me tell you first hand it is VERY hard...but yes, it is the thing to do...we are not here forever....

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Amen. Preachers are human not divine so we fail and age will affect us all.

I agree. We are all human and it is hard to let go.

I look in the Obituaries and see people my age and younger dying everyday. It has prompted my husband and I to seriously talk with our children about what they specifically want in regards to our possessions after our death. We are going to do this so that they can be specific and that the "Will" will be ironclad and hopefully they will not have any 'surprises' to fight over material possessions. They will know beforehand exactly how the estate will be divided out equally and fairly.

This is why I am having a hard time wondering why this situation happened to all these people. Christ built the church through the labor and the generosity of the people. It just does not seem right that one or two people call the shots on property, has property in individual names because the property should belong to the people of the church.

If nothing else comes from this...it will be a lesson for all people, not just independent churches to get their house in order before they pass away. That is a biblical principle to do such things while we have sound mind.

Sis Alvear, it IS hard to let go of people and places we love. I can only imagine that the missions your husband and you worked so hard building would be as hard to let go as when your children grew up and left home.

[ILG]

Why is it that "women with bobbed hair are going to hell" but preachers who put their congregations through all kinds of horrors because they don't do things right are simply human?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by ILG

Why is it that "women with bobbed hair are going to hell" but preachers who put their congregations through all kinds of horrors because they don't do things right are simply human?

we have to justify the "good ole boys club"

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Sam

we have to justify the "good ole boys club"