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Old 08-11-2012, 10:34 AM
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we have to justify the "good ole boys club"
I already knew that but I had to say something.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:06 PM
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Why is it that "women with bobbed hair are going to hell" but preachers who put their congregations through all kinds of horrors because they don't do things right are simply human?
It is simple we have clear instructions about women's hair we do not have clear instructions on a procedure of pastoral transitions.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:21 PM
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It is simple we have clear instructions about women's hair we do not have clear instructions on a procedure of pastoral transitions.
The hair deal is not that "clear". There are a lot of clear teachings in the bible but what Paul said is not one of them
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It is simple we have clear instructions about women's hair we do not have clear instructions on a procedure of pastoral transitions.
Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;Romans 12:11

That sounds pretty clear to me. Also, the bible says long not uncut. I think you just want to think that one is clear and the other is not because it's more convenient for you.
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The hair deal is not that "clear". There are a lot of clear teachings in the bible but what Paul said is not one of them
Clear to me. Would you like a cd of my teaching on the subject?
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It is simple we have clear instructions about women's hair we do not have clear instructions on a procedure of pastoral transitions.
What is a procedure of pastoral transitions?
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:12 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!

1 Thessalonians 4:6
That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

Romans 12:11
Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord

Matthew 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

John 2:16 To those who sold the doves, he said, "Take these things out of here! Don't make my Father's house a marketplace!"

Acts 6:3 Therefore select from among you, brothers, seven men of good report, full of the Holy Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.

Romans 12:17 Do not give evil for evil to any man. Let all your business be well ordered in the eyes of all men.

2 Peter 2:3 And in their desire for profit they will come to you with words of deceit, like traders doing business in souls: whose punishment has been ready for a long time and their destruction is watching for them.

Proverbs 22:29 Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 For everything there is a fixed time, and a time for every business under the sun.

I am sure MUCH MUCH more could be put together concerning the rightful running of business than a sketchy little verse about long (not uncut) hair that there is NO "in the mouths of two or three witnesses" whatsoever.
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Re: A Wrecked Church!

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The hair deal is not that "clear". There are a lot of clear teachings in the bible but what Paul said is not one of them
Hmm; seems manifestly clear to this guy. "...because of the angels," explained?

http://www.biblenews1.com/marriage/marriagg.htm

way better than any explanation I've heard so far...
last page, I think.
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Hmm; seems manifestly clear to this guy. "...because of the angels," explained?

http://www.biblenews1.com/marriage/marriagg.htm

way better than any explanation I've heard so far...
last page, I think.
Nothing seems CLEAR today!!!
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:39 PM
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1 Thessalonians 4:6
That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

Romans 12:11
Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord

Matthew 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

John 2:16 To those who sold the doves, he said, "Take these things out of here! Don't make my Father's house a marketplace!"

Acts 6:3 Therefore select from among you, brothers, seven men of good report, full of the Holy Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.

Romans 12:17 Do not give evil for evil to any man. Let all your business be well ordered in the eyes of all men.

2 Peter 2:3 And in their desire for profit they will come to you with words of deceit, like traders doing business in souls: whose punishment has been ready for a long time and their destruction is watching for them.

Proverbs 22:29 Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 For everything there is a fixed time, and a time for every business under the sun.

I am sure MUCH MUCH more could be put together concerning the rightful running of business than a sketchy little verse about long (not uncut) hair that there is NO "in the mouths of two or three witnesses" whatsoever.
And these verses apply to pastoral transitions?
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