A Wrecked Church!

[tv1a]

God Bless the next chapter of your lives.

Originally Posted by my kids mom

I Have been asked by members of HEART OF PRAISE EVERLASTING to set the record straight once and for all. First of all, the amazing group that left, has been through the fire, but has finally come out. They were hurt by the people they called friends, but not one of them has a bad word to say about any of them. They have left GR and have started a new family. They were not lead by any one person, it was a group decision, and one that was made after many sleepless nights spent in prayer and fasting. They want you all to know they have no hard feelings toward anyone, but at the same time, they no longer have a concern about anything pertaining to GR. Not the building, the pastor, or any properties that may be attached to GR. The man that has been under such scrutiny, the man they are bashing for "splitting the church" RH has never one time said or led anyone to believe he wanted to become pastor. His response and attitude this entire time has always been, whatever the people want and whatever the will of God is. They have had visiting preachers every Sunday and the power of God has been amazing. One prayed back through, one filled with the Holy Ghost, and praying and singing that is under the powerful anointing. They have a new location, a new name and God is blessing their integrity to worship together as a body. This has brought them to their knees, which has sweetened their relationship with their God and with their fellow worshipers. Thanks to everyone that has been praying for this group of people, they have made it through. They do NOT feel like the victims, they feel like they are in the perfect will of GOD!!!!!!!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by my kids mom

With all respect, Betty, If you will read my comment, I did not say I was speaking for ALL members. I said I was speaking for Members of H.O.P.E I could not speak for all members since I do not know the heart of others, Only the ones that have asked me to speak on their behalf. Yes, R.H. did preach Sunday, but there was a visiting preacher there, as has been every Sunday service. Honestly, no one is trying to "one up" anyone. These people love the members of G.R. they have worshiped together for years. They have watched their children grow up together, they have built buildings together, and have buried loved ones. I am only letting anyone interested in knowing, that this body of worshipers has moved on. No hard feelings, no resentment, no looking back. They left all baggage at the door, and the power of God is honoring their strength to do so. I also am not afraid to tell you who I am, I am Pam Hook, formerly known as Pam Adams. I am the very proud daughter of Bobby and Nancy Adams, and I speak for them. I have not heard my parents utter one bad word against anyone of you, not once. They have spent hours in prayer and looking to God for the right thing to do. I have seen the joy on their faces that has been missing for some time. The reason we are here is to worship God and Glorify Him FOREVER!!!!!! Speaking ill against the people we call our "friends" brings Him no Glory. Their message is simply this. We are happy, we are a new church and we have a new beginning. We love G.R and always will. We love the people, and always will. It was just time for change for us....It's time to let it go, and be a loyal member to whichever church you decide. Love these people instead of playing both sides... As for my parents, they have made their choice and they are being blessed as a result. Get in the Word and on your knees, and God will also direct you to make the right choice. He never fails you, never.

I really appreciate the spirit you write this in. It sounds like your parents and some others have made some good choices.

[Rapture 1]

Originally Posted by kingsmen

I see there is some talk about a "mole" or two. The two people that are considered "moles", both of them had their own agendas. The first 'mole', the one that spent time in federal prison, he seems to be a "true mole" in that he was relaying information back and forth. You will note that he has not even left the church nor was he given a certified letter to leave the church. You must ask yourself a question...how could a person be so close to the people that have left yet he chose to stay when they chose to leave? And the "daughter" did not force him to leave??
As for the second "mole", he has been in this for himself the whole time. He does not work for the daughter and does not work for the people or their best interest. He has had his own personal motivation the whole time. For example, after the election where the "boyfriend" was voted down, he (the mole) was supposed to call for a vote against the "daughter" immediately but he chose not to do this because if he did and she were voted out the "bishop from Michigan" would have immediately come in and taken control. He did not want the bishop to come in because he wanted to be the pastor of the people. Next example, when the people wanted to retain an attorney he rose up against that, again because he has his own motivations. This mole knew if they got an attorney and won he might not remain in power. He wants to pastor badly, at any cost. Mark my word, it won't be two long before he has his brother in there prophesying over people. (Side note: his brother has been divorced and has never been faithful to any church, he is a prolific church-hopper. He is not qualified to prophesy over anybody. No respectable church would have him in their pulpit.)
If the "people that left the church" knew the real circumstances and were aware of these examples, they would not follow this man.

Shame on you!!!! Saying something about one of the men at church. So what if he spent some time in Federal Prison. That dosn't mean he was guilty, just made wrong choices in picking his buisness associates. And the fact that he has stayed, if he says he's waiting for a miracle, then I BELIEVE in miracles. Some of your other information is wrong, also. It wasn't discussed about voting out the "daughter", she dosn't hold a position to vote on(she just runs the place). I think you are one, of the ones who have found out the truth about the "daughter and boyfriend" and are turning turn-coat. So you are angry with "them" and the others that have left. In other words you are just ANGRY! :

[Charnock]

This thread is an abomination.

Reading this, why would anyone want to be Apostolic?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Charnock

This thread is an abomination.

Reading this, why would anyone want to be Apostolic?

Well, I've gone to some restaurants and had horrible steaks. I mean just plain bad!

But I still love steak!

[bbyrd009]

The term is essentially meaningless.
People are people.

[Rapture 1]

Originally Posted by Charnock

This thread is an abomination.

Reading this, why would anyone want to be Apostolic?

This is not a reflection on the Apostolic truth!! This is about PEOPLE and what happens when they don't have a pastor. What happens to sheep when they lose their shepherd? GR church hasn't had a shepherd in a long time. This is not the first time this has happened and won't be the last. People need to be aware of this and not let it happen. This could have been prevented and a lot of people would not have been hurt if someone had of stepped up and done something. But when so many of the men of the church die off or move off and not many members left,it's hard to tell your pastor he needs to step down and let someone else lead. The Apostolic truth is the same as it has always been and always will be. I would not trade it for anything!!

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Rapture 1

This is not a reflection on the Apostolic truth!! This is about PEOPLE and what happens when they don't have a pastor. What happens to sheep when they lose their shepherd? GR church hasn't had a shepherd in a long time. This is not the first time this has happened and won't be the last. People need to be aware of this and not let it happen. This could have been prevented and a lot of people would not have been hurt if someone had of stepped up and done something. But when so many of the men of the church die off or move off and not many members left,it's hard to tell your pastor he needs to step down and let someone else lead. The Apostolic truth is the same as it has always been and always will be. I would not trade it for anything!!

Your post is the 666th in this thread. Gasp!

[Rapture 1]

Originally Posted by ILG

Your post is the 666th in this thread. Gasp!

WOW!!! I wish I had of known!!!

[AreYouReady?]

Hahahahaha!