Baron didn't seem to take it that way, we seem to be off to a good discussion?
Yet thank for your positive input, and correction of typo.
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Originally Posted by NotforSale
Were you ever molested as a child, or beaten by your drunken father and mother?
You really felt my post deserved this response?
Interesting.
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Yes. Answer this question; what will happen to a sex slave when they die? They are not going to any Church, have any Bibles, and are living in immorality and drug addiction.
People who are damaged like this young lady was, are not responsible for their actions, they have no real choice. It is great when a psychologist or therapist can help them heal, and restore them to a place where they can once again make real choices.
The only thing worse than the damage done those who abuse is those who force them to live in a broken state by simply giving them a religion but no real help. Like those who have a broken leg and all that is done is praying for them but no medical help given.
Yes, to this, I agree!! Very good.
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This is where God knows what people have endured... and people have no idea what has happened to their fellow man/woman (in the past) when they walk through the church doors. Many assume that most people come from loving homes, when in fact they would be horrified to hear about what kind of conditions they had to endure when they were children. Most churchgoers do not even want to hear about it because, as some say, they cannot do anything about it so why listen to it?
I've asked this same question before in another thread. What do Preachers and congregants in general do when they encounter people who have endured mental/emotional/physical abuse? I like baron's answer the best.
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It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. (Psalms 118:8)
This is where God knows what people have endured... and people have no idea what has happened to their fellow man/woman (in the past) when they walk through the church doors. Many assume that most people come from loving homes, when in fact they would be horrified to hear about what kind of conditions they had to endure when they were children. Most churchgoers do not even want to hear about it because, as some say, they cannot do anything about it so why listen to it?
I've asked this same question before in another thread. What do Preachers and congregants in general do when they encounter people who have endured mental/emotional/physical abuse? I like baron's answer the best.
Thus the unsaid doctrine of "Leave it at the apostolic alter!". Pray while trembling and having a few "Mmm shaka!"'s shouted in your face, and no one has to deal with any issues afterwards. If anyone DOES that just means the prayers and "Mmm Shaka!"'s weren't loud and forceful enough.
Thus the unsaid doctrine of "Leave it at the apostolic alter!". Pray while trembling and having a few "Mmm shaka!"'s shouted in your face, and no one has to deal with any issues afterwards. If anyone DOES that just means the prayers and "Mmm Shaka!"'s weren't loud and forceful enough.
...or you did not receive the blessing of the mmm Shaka!
Fact is, I have not found any church that is equipped to handle a person who may have grown up like little Beth. She has exceptional parents who recognizes that there were big problems. For the most part, children like this go unnoticed or are cast aside as rebellious.
It is amazing to me that a 6-year-old acted out on an act that was done to her repeatedly while she was one-year-old. This goes to show us humans that people have reasons why they are the way they are. We may not always be aware of those reasons, but our subconscious is. And so is God.
So yes, I agree that maybe God judges, not based upon appearance, but upon all that he knows about us and what happens to us in our lifetime.
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It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. (Psalms 118:8)
...or you did not receive the blessing of the mmm Shaka!
Fact is, I have not found any church that is equipped to handle a person who may have grown up like little Beth. She has exceptional parents who recognizes that there were big problems. For the most part, children like this go unnoticed or are cast aside as rebellious.
I wonder what she is like today. I wonder what she would be like if her parents told her she was just a very bad sinner for doing those things and had not gotten her any help?
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Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it. ~Chinese Proverb
When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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