Tattoos

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

So do you believe that the person who is depressed is possessed by the spirit?

Hmm, I think that's prolly too simple. I think depression is pretty clearly a sign that something is wrong with a person, but that it can originate from more than one thing. Poor diet I liken to witchcraft (strange, I know). I think this might cover many/most depressions, but I note that many people get "depressed" for purely temporal reasons--can't get something they covet, etc.

What one does about a depression might indicate how "possessed"
they are by it; surely common is the one who prefers depression,
for the attention it garners, etc., but I think the more I learn the less I know here. I am convinced that depression is self-inflicted, although that is
prolly little help. We live in a stressful world, and it can be easy to assume
that one "needs" to do certain things, or have certain things, when this is not true.

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Do you always answer your own questions?

I try not too.

[trialedbyfire]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

So...are you saying that these people cannot be spiritually helped at all?

I do agree that there are people who advertise their beliefs through the tattoos, but...I've seen people saved after they tattooed all their arms and backs up. It is hard...and much more costly to remove tattoos once in the skin.

Yet, at the same time, I've seen professing Christians get tattoos.

I'm not particularly talking about tattoos. I'm talking about people who commit random acts of grotesque violence with no remorse or other acts such as child rape, etc and seem not to have what we'd usually call human emotion.

The tattoos themselves don't always mean that that is the case. I only made reference to reprobates because of your question how we reach people like the person in the photo. I just brought up the fact that some people may not be able to be reached. Not saying he's one of him, just saying that some people can't be reached and tattoos like that to me suggest there's something spiritual going on. He doesn't look all the way there, I don't see certain things as "cries for help" like many do... sometimes people express themselves in strange ways yes, but sometimes Demons also express themselves through the outward appearance of a man they are tormenting. He's got a mark on himself, that's what it looks like, it looks like he's marked for death. Could be reading to much into it, but it's Satan, I can't put nothing past him.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Hmm, I think that's prolly too simple. I think depression is pretty clearly a sign that something is wrong with a person, but that it can originate from more than one thing. Poor diet I liken to witchcraft (strange, I know).

Interesting point of view byrd. Care to expound?

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

I think this might cover many/most depressions, but I note that many people get "depressed" for purely temporal reasons--can't get something they covet, etc.

I don't consider that to be "depression". More akin to Moping? Sulking? Brooding? Tantrum maybe? Children do that. Some adults never grow up.

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

What one does about a depression might indicate how "possessed" they are by it; surely common is the one who prefers depression, for the attention it garners, etc.,

The only attention depression ever garnered for me is shunning, disdain and misunderstanding from the church society. I think they were afraid that the "depression spirit" would jump on them. I'm like... huh? There is no church love in these parts for people who develop depression...except maybe for their own family and close friends.

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

but I think the more I learn the less I know here. I am convinced that depression is self-inflicted, although that is prolly little help. We live in a stressful world, and it can be easy to assume that one "needs" to do certain things, or have certain things, when this is not true.

I agree except for the part of it being self-inflicting.

I never cared one whit of keeping up with the Joneses materialistically. Not having many material things is really a blessing for me. It makes me very thankful to the Lord that He gives me what I do have.

There are many reasons for depression. One lady I knew never understood why she was depressed until she started having memories of her father forcibly dragging her out from under the bed she was hiding and hanging on the bedposts. Once he drug her out, he gave (sold) her to men for the night. She was about 10-years-old.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

I'm not particularly talking about tattoos. I'm talking about people who commit random acts of grotesque violence with no remorse or other acts such as child rape, etc and seem not to have what we'd usually call human emotion.

The tattoos themselves don't always mean that that is the case. I only made reference to reprobates because of your question how we reach people like the person in the photo. I just brought up the fact that some people may not be able to be reached. Not saying he's one of him, just saying that some people can't be reached and tattoos like that to me suggest there's something spiritual going on. He doesn't look all the way there, I don't see certain things as "cries for help" like many do... sometimes people express themselves in strange ways yes, but sometimes Demons also express themselves through the outward appearance of a man they are tormenting. He's got a mark on himself, that's what it looks like, it looks like he's marked for death. Could be reading to much into it, but it's Satan, I can't put nothing past him.

Oh ok. Thanks for the clarification. In regards to demons expressing themselves through the outward appearance...do you believe that a person can actually change facial appearance and vocal expressions when they manifest?

I've never seen anything like that...nor would I want to...but I've read about it.

And yes, this guy definitely seems to have issues by tatooing the "cut here" on his throat....almost like a death wish wouldn't you say?

[bbyrd009]

We make this; cause it to manifest.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Interesting point of view byrd. Care to expound?

Literally witchdoctoring of your food supply, provided by the largest private enterprise in the world. Private=less public.

[bbyrd009]

Any normal person will get depressed if
eating from the center aisles of Safeway,
and CAFO meat, and some couch time.
you'll be deficient in like 20 things.

They are mostly all known, and just
determining to discover which might obtain
for you ends up being at least a journey
in a positive direction.

I generally suspect inactivity plays a role,
as exertion naturally releases endorphins,
and you cannot. be depressed. on endorphins.
Go take a walk.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Literally witchdoctoring of your food supply, provided by the largest private enterprise in the world. Private=less public.

I agree with this.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Any normal person will get depressed if
eating from the center aisles of Safeway,
and CAFO meat, and some couch time.
you'll be deficient in like 20 things.

They are mostly all known, and just
determining to discover which might obtain
for you ends up being at least a journey
in a positive direction.

I generally suspect inactivity plays a role,
as exertion naturally releases endorphins,
and you cannot. be depressed. on endorphins.
Go take a walk.

You see...I've already learned all of this while recovering from depression several years past. Had to learn it the hard way, and it's been a long time since I've been depressed. I have other physical issues now due to the pharmacopeia that was prescribed to me. Which is why I now am an advocate for natural remedies unless somebody is in crisis.