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08-29-2012, 10:46 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by kingsmen
Let me respond to the last 2 to post. First of all, what is said about "no plan of succession before the pastor's health fails" is not true nor is it true that the Bishop, of his own will, tried to continue pastoring. He attempted several times to bring in help but was blocked. So you contradict yourself when you use statements like "a little Christian charity and common sense" when you are blatantly dishonest and clearly dont know what you are talking about. In fact there were a set of by-laws, that were destroyed, that did set forth a plan of succession. And in fact, the reason people keep posting is because things still keep happening.
I see that the ones that are complaining so much about the thread and what is said are a) not involved in this situation so they have nothing at stake b) have derrogatory signature/tag lines on their posts toward Apostolics. This forum is called Apostolic Friends Forum not Pentecostal Friends Forum... there is a difference you know.
This is not gossip, slander or name calling it is simply the events that have happened. And if you are "so embarrassed" then simply don't read it. But this thread needs to be about the truth and the truth needs to be told.
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No disrespect to you, but, the pastor did try twice to "bring in someone", as a matter of fact, it was family, but when that person got here he changed his mind, (because of the daughter). Anyone who is or was on the board at that time can tell you, If he will. The set of by-laws that was mentioned was not signed by anyone, wasn't lost, but as one very good lawyer said, they don't make sense, that if we took it to court, Tn has a set of by-laws that they would go by. As I said, this is no disrespect to what you are saying, just stating a fact from some, who have been there for many, many years.
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08-29-2012, 10:50 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Your language offends me. I have not spoken angrily or with venom but I am curious as to why you fight this thread so badly. This thread was created to help people that could not help themselves and to give a voice to those that were wronged. What do you have against that?
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I can't understand why "Michael" keeps reading this. Why does it hit home so much? I am beginning to believe it is someone we would know!!!!
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08-29-2012, 10:57 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...8&postcount=15
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Ok, let's step back for a minute:
1.) Notice that I said your attitude sucks, I didn't say anything about you personally.
2.) The reason I said that is because you accused another poster of being blatantly dishonest when all they were doing was stating a hypothetical situation, and you are claiming to be the sole speaker of "Truth" on this thread, and anyone else (especially those who disagree) are clueless morons.
3.) You made some comment about this not being a "Pentecostal" friends forum, but an "Apostolic" friends forum, and then you made some snide remarks about our signature lines, inferring that we shouldn't even be allowed to participate.
4.) Then, when I ask a simple question like "Who's truth to believe" you won't respond in a civil tone, but instead you make another snide remark "At least I know what I"m talking about, can you say the same?"
So, yes, your attitude sucks, and I don't apologize for that statement.
Finally, I do care about this thread, because I don't want to see this forum turned into a gossip column, and this thread is the epitome of pure gossip. And you are one of the most vocal proponents.
This thread is not helping anyone, it's an affront to Biblical conflict resolution, and you are a happy participant. Therefore I post on it.
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I guess it all depends on who is posting and whether or not we agree with what they post.
Last edited by Chateau d'If; 08-29-2012 at 11:02 AM.
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08-29-2012, 11:06 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by Chateau d'If
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What's the reference?
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08-29-2012, 11:16 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Ok, let's step back for a minute:
1.) Notice that I said your attitude sucks, I didn't say anything about you personally.
2.) The reason I said that is because you accused another poster of being blatantly dishonest when all they were doing was stating a hypothetical situation, and you are claiming to be the sole speaker of "Truth" on this thread, and anyone else (especially those who disagree) are clueless morons.
3.) You made some comment about this not being a "Pentecostal" friends forum, but an "Apostolic" friends forum, and then you made some snide remarks about our signature lines, inferring that we shouldn't even be allowed to participate.
4.) Then, when I ask a simple question like "Who's truth to believe" you won't respond in a civil tone, but instead you make another snide remark "At least I know what I"m talking about, can you say the same?"
So, yes, your attitude sucks, and I don't apologize for that statement.
Finally, I do care about this thread, because I don't want to see this forum turned into a gossip column, and this thread is the epitome of pure gossip. And you are one of the most vocal proponents.
This thread is not helping anyone, it's an affront to Biblical conflict resolution, and you are a happy participant. Therefore I post on it.
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
What's the reference?
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I used the word "screws" and was spanked. You used the word "sucks" and was not.
I feel abused.
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08-29-2012, 11:36 AM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Apostolic is a subjective term. Catholics and charismatics can make the same apostolic claim. Apostolic means more than getting turned on by women's hair and what garments they choose to wear to cover areas below the waist
The thread has gone past the point of reconciliation or at least amiacable parting. The reason Michael Phelps and others speak up is to remind the reader this behavior is not acceptable for Christians.
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At least I know what I am talking about. Can you say the same? And if this thread offends you so greatly then just bug out!
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08-29-2012, 12:06 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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I used the word "screws" and was spanked. You used the word "sucks" and was not.
I feel abused.
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Ah, well, there's a reason for that - your word was much worse
Seriously, if Admin feels I was out of line, I would be happy to change my use of the word to "stinks". But, in my mind, they both mean the same thing!
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08-29-2012, 12:09 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Ah, well, there's a reason for that - your word was much worse
Seriously, if Admin feels I was out of line, I would be happy to change my use of the word to "stinks". But, in my mind, they both mean the same thing!
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Is that confirmed in the Greek????
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08-29-2012, 12:21 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Is that confirmed in the Greek???? 
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Strongs Exhaustive......
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08-29-2012, 12:46 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by Chateau d'If
I used the word "screws" and was spanked. You used the word "sucks" and was not.
I feel abused.
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Y'all are grown men, clean up your language.
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