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Old 09-17-2012, 09:50 PM
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We supported the 'Islamic Spring' in Egypt and Libya. We even helped. Did anyone really believe what would be better is what they have now? I've hear before that Democracy never works in these kinds of nations. Why? It allows the extremist elements to gain power.
Libya the gas went from 45 cents to skies the limit.

Oh, let's not forget all the gold bullion disappearing from the country.

Democracy never works in these countries?

Maybe we should quit helping these ingrates, we better stop going around the world and spreading freedom, and democracy, because after we fly in our drones, rocket a few homes filled with innocent men, women, and children, we always complain how everyone has a hard time adjusting to the freedom we won them.

Ungrateful third worlders!

They should appreciate our help, keep quite, and kneel before Zod!
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:52 PM
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I think Obama thought he was winning over the hearts and minds of the Muslim world


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Libya the gas went from 45 cents to skies the limit.

Oh, let's not forget all the gold bullion disappearing from the country.

Democracy never works in these countries?

Maybe we should quit helping these ingrates, we better stop going around the world and spreading freedom, and democracy, because after we fly in our drones, rocket a few homes filled with innocent men, women, and children, we always complain how everyone has a hard time adjusting to the freedom we won them.

Ungrateful third worlders!

They should appreciate our help, keep quite, and kneel before Zod!
You...you...you...conspiracy theorist you!
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:36 PM
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Libya the gas went from 45 cents to skies the limit.

Oh, let's not forget all the gold bullion disappearing from the country.

Democracy never works in these countries?

Maybe we should quit helping these ingrates, we better stop going around the world and spreading freedom, and democracy, because after we fly in our drones, rocket a few homes filled with innocent men, women, and children, we always complain how everyone has a hard time adjusting to the freedom we won them.

Ungrateful third worlders!

They should appreciate our help, keep quite, and kneel before Zod!
And weapons. Many of Libya's weapons went to outside movements
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:40 PM
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So come on...spit it out. What's your point?
As much as we want to spread Democracy around the world, simply meddling in other nations affairs, destabilizing governments and regions has never gotten us the desired results (unless that WAS the desired result).

I think Saddam was a major bad guy but after he was disposed the region experienced major instability and near civil war.

Like it or not, the governments that were there were stable
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As much as we want to spread Democracy around the world, simply meddling in other nations affairs, destabilizing governments and regions has never gotten us the desired results (unless that WAS the desired result).

I think Saddam was a major bad guy but after he was disposed the region experienced major instability and near civil war.

Like it or not, the governments that were there were stable
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As much as we want to spread Democracy around the world, simply meddling in other nations affairs, destabilizing governments and regions has never gotten us the desired results (unless that WAS the desired result).

I think Saddam was a major bad guy but after he was disposed the region experienced major instability and near civil war.

Like it or not, the governments that were there were stable
Well said. There is more that you know and are not saying.
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Re: Blame Obama for what happened in middle east

Sadly, I'm coming to the conclusion
that "democracy" is the worst lie perpetrated
upon us yet, for reasons Prax touches on.
It is the best way that I have yet seen to
enslave a population, in the end.
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now jd is taking up for muslims in the rest of the world as well as wh,some things never change, maybe he should change his name to wii 2 ps the pic i saw of him, he had a hole in the top of his head, im calling daid !
i did not read where jd took up for muslims. each person is responsible for their own actions.Obama never made those people attack us.
Adam blamed eve who blamed satan.
we should take resposiblity for our own actions. A christian needs to take personal responsiblity. We our judged by our choices not obamas.
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