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Old 09-27-2012, 09:08 PM
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Re: Friends church droppped "standards"

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady? View Post
Maybe people are brainwashed into believing that God's power is fueled upon their standards. They subconsciously think that the miracles stop because they dropped the standards.

The foundation of God's miracles is Jesus Christ, not standards. Belief that He died for our sins and His resurrection is the fuel, not standards.
Your post has merit but I find the use of the term "brainwashed" offensive.

Personally I feel it has more to do simply with discipline. I've been to many churches with strict or even semi-strict standards. They tend to have more prayer meetings, more consecration, more people fasting, more people seeking Gods face. THAT is what causes miracles: prayer, faith, and fasting.

Am I personally very big on standards? I believe that's left up to the pastor and I believe in moderation. However I grew up watching saints who were strict in holiness and can say that I saw first hand these saints were only disciplined in appearance but they were discipline in fasting, praying, and devotion to God.

Ill give an example of what I'm talking about. I visited a PAW church in Virginia while I was on TDY for my job. The church had completely lost all discipline. I went to pray in the morning and out of a church with about 170 people there were 4 at prayer. All of them elderly women. There were no standards at the church, even the pastors granddaughter came in wearing jeans and had lip piercings, she sat in the back of the church with the other youth who dressed the same way and were all texting and talking throughout the service. Am I saying that low standards always mean no power?No. But no discipline does, and from my experience a lot of churches that let down standards also change their disciplines.
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