Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[tv1a]

If you don't KNOW what happened by now, then you don't need to know.

Originally Posted by Jay

Does anyone on here know what actually happened, because I see assertions made with no links or messages. I read the wiki link, but found it to be less than helpful. I am going to be content to wait and find out from others what happened with Bro. Black.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

But it ALL begins with the MAN.

Now you are just perpetuating the stereotype that the man is the boss, and the woman should just follow his lead. This is prominent in the Pentecostal churches, and it's an easy excuse for women.....if things aren't going well, it's the man's fault. If the marriage is in trouble, it's the man's fault. It's the reverse "Garden of Eden" excuse.......the man, he made me do it!

[LooneyLucy]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Actually is ALL begins with God.

The problem is too many believe in the 50/50 myth, as in "marriage is a 50/50 proposition." Actually marriage is an ALL IN proposition. Each partner should give 100%, regardless of what the other does. Peter even writes "Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives." So when a husband isn't leading the way, the command is still tomb respectful, and in so doing the husband may be won over.

Even in the garden, the WOMAN fell first, but God blamed the MAN. When you are married to a saved man, it is HIS responsibility to love his wife the Bible way, then the rest will fall in place. Like one pastor repeatedly says, "I have NEVER seen a woman unwillingly to submit to a man who truly loves her as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it."

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

Even in the garden, the WOMAN fell first, but God blamed the MAN. When you are married to a saved man, it is HIS responsibility to love his wife the Bible way, then the rest will fall in place. Like one pastor repeatedly says, "I have NEVER seen a woman unwillingly to submit to a man who truly loves her as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it."

I don't disagree, albeit I believe each person must take responsibility for what they are commanded to do. Most men, if treated with respect, will react in loving ways. Most women, of treated lovingly, will react in respectful ways. It's a cycle that perpetuates itself positively. No man should say that because his wife isnt respectful, he isn't going to be loving. No woman should say because her husband isnt loving she isnt going to be respectful.

It's commanded because love is what a woman craves and desires. Contrary to what most people think, men crave and desire respect above love.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I don't disagree, albeit I believe each person must take responsibility for what they are commanded to do. Most men, if treated with respect, will react in loving ways. Most women, of treated lovingly, will react in respectful ways. It's a cycle that perpetuates itself positively. No man should say that because his wife isnt respectful, he isn't going to be loving. No woman should say because her husband isnt loving she isnt going to be respectful.

It's commanded because love is what a woman craves and desires. Contrary to what most people think, men crave and desire respect above love.

DB, I agree with you, but I think we're fighting a losing battle here - we're MEN!

[LooneyLucy]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

DB, I agree with you, but I think we're fighting a losing battle here - we're MEN!

[returnman]

Wasn't there an audio byte of the resignation on here yesterday? Is it still on this thread?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

Even in the garden, the WOMAN fell first, but God blamed the MAN. When you are married to a saved man, it is HIS responsibility to love his wife the Bible way, then the rest will fall in place. Like one pastor repeatedly says, "I have NEVER seen a woman unwillingly to submit to a man who truly loves her as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it."

So does a man only have to love his wife if she is submissive?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

The same scripture Eph 5:33 says the woman must respect her husband. "Love and Respect" by Eggerich is one of the best books on understanding the differences between men and women I've ever read. Unconditional love is commanded to men, unconditional respect is commanded to women. It takes both parties being obedient to the commands God gives them.

Amen.

[Monterrey]

Ongoing affair over 4 years.

The news from Lake Woe be gone.