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Old 10-16-2012, 09:12 PM
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Re: 2nd Presidential Debate Tonight 9 EST!!!!!!!

Have to do the fact checking before I comment much. But, Romney was Biden tonight interrupting and being rude. Off the top of my head:

Obama made a huge mistake shutting down the conversation on Libya. That didn't look good.

Obama did hit Romney on the things he has been for and
against - assault weapons and coal.

Romney called Obama on his pension investments - they both have. lol

Romney did not answer the first question about jobs the young college boy asked.

Obama talked about oil companies not drilling and taking away permits. Same thing Palin faced in Alaska.

Obama dodged, big time, the Federal land drilling.

Romney said he was licking his wounds from being beaten by McCain. LOL! His handlers are going to tell him that was a stupid thing to say. He didn't have to interject that into the conversation.

Romney was wrong about Obama not mentioning "terror". His exact wording in the Rose Garden - "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation,"

Gary Johnson tweets - "Apparently #Obama & #Romney aren't aware: the Second Amendment doesn't have an exception for automatic weapons." lol

On China - Romney wants tariffs. I remember Huntsman, former ambassador to China, saying in one of the primary debates that tough talk and new tariffs aren't the answer as it would cause a huge trade war.

At the end, Romney said, "Some campaign's are focused on attacking people." Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum just jumped out of their chairs.

My ending analysis tonight:

Romney was rude and mean, Obama wins. That means Mitt wins next week and that is the likely indication that Soros and his bankster buddies have picked Romney to be POTUS. Yippee! LOL!
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:26 PM
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Here's a look at the Romney tax plan ahead of tonight's debate:

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
ROFL, Adam!!! Hilarious--and so true!! I laughed out loud and had to go show the link to my husband.

He definitely wants to keep specifics under wraps. I'm not sure why, but I don't think it's because he doesn't have a plan. Romney's strong points are business and finance, which includes addressing taxes, IMO.

Romney can put us back on the right track financially and I also firmly believe that he knows how to help businesses.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:32 PM
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On China - Romney wants tariffs. I remember Huntsman, former ambassador to China, saying in one of the primary debates that tough talk and new tariffs aren't the answer as it would cause a huge trade war.
Some info I saved. This is exactly why we are not going to get tough with China.

China & Japan (Feb, 2012) signed the largest trade agreement that was ever enacted. (China being the second largest economy in the world and Japan being the third largest) They are going to sell and trade products amongst themselves and we will not use the American dollar.

China and Russia (Sept 7th) China Daily - China & Russia will sell and trade amongst themselves and they will not use the American dollar.

China and Brazil (BBC) have agreed on a huge currency swap between the two countries. They will not use the American dollar.

China and Australia (Financial Express) will not use the American dollar to trade amongst themselves.

India & Japan (Reuters News Service) large currency swap, no longer using the US dollar

India & China (April 27th) India & China is buying oil from Iran and they will not use the US dollar.

Iran & Russia (Bloomberg) Will no longer use the American dollar, because the US sanctions

China & Chile have just signed new agreements. Not using the US dollar

China & United Arab Emirates (CNN) No longer using the US dollar

China & Africa – Standard Bank of Africa (China is the #1 trade partner with Africa) No longer using the US dollar

Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa (BRICS) on 4/5/12, said we will no longer use the US dollar for the sale of our goods and services

China (Sept 6th, 2012) officially announced that any country in the world that wants sell crude oil using the Yuan instead of the US dollar can now do it. Everything is set up to do this. The next day Russia announced that they will sell China all the crude oil it wants, no limitations… And they will not use the US dollar.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:43 PM
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Re: 2nd Presidential Debate Tonight 9 EST!!!!!!!

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Here's a look at the Romney tax plan ahead of tonight's debate:

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
I'm not an Obamaite but this gave me quite a chuckle.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:54 PM
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Romney's attempt to distance himself from GWB was tastefully mastered.

I think Romney did very well at attempting to paint the President as the sole reason for the economy's current condition. Obama seemed calm and confident but, in a departure from what I have heard others say, I also think that, generally speaking, Romney was still more confident and assertive than Obama tonight.

However, to Obama's credit, he defended himself against Romney's attacks on his economic record and the Libya debacle in the best way he could, turning what should have been huge point scoring opportunities for Romney into a big scores for the President.

I didn't watch the first debate, very glad I watched this debate, and will do what I can to watch the final debate.

Tonight's debate has sealed the deal regarding which Presidential candidate I am voting for.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:00 PM
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Candy Crowley has just admitted she was wrong about the President saying "terror" in the Rose Garden in regards to Benghazi. She says the context was he was referring to 9/11/01 not the attack in Libya.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:03 PM
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Romney's attempt to distance himself from GWB was tastefully mastered.

I think Romney did very well at attempting to paint the President as the sole reason for the economy's current condition. Obama seemed calm and confident but, in a departure from what I have heard others say, I also think that, generally speaking, Romney was still more confident and assertive than Obama tonight.

However, to Obama's credit, he defended himself against Romney's attacks on his economic record and the Libya debacle in the best way he could, turning what should have been huge point scoring opportunities for Romney into a big scores for the President.

I didn't watch the first debate, very glad I watched this debate, and will do what I can to watch the final debate.

Tonight's debate has sealed the deal regarding which Presidential candidate I am voting for.
Good to see you back JD. You've decided to vote for Romney.
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Candy Crowley has just admitted she was wrong about the President saying "terror" in the Rose Garden in regards to Benghazi. She says the context was he was referring to 9/11/01 not the attack in Libya.
If she did admit this, she is wrong. The structure of Obama's Rose Garden statement would definitely imply that the President referred to Benghazi as a terror attack.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:08 PM
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If she did admit this, she is wrong. The structure of Obama's Rose Garden statement would definitely imply that the President referred to Benghazi as a terror attack.
Now JD, you know good and well that the president and the admin worked hard for fourteen days to avoid labeling this a terrorist attack, a pre planned, premeditated attack. They obviously continued a narrative that what happened in Benghazi was a spontaneous demonstration as the result of the YouTube video, even though they had facts to the contrary within 24 hours.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:09 PM
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Candy Crowley has just admitted she was wrong about the President saying "terror" in the Rose Garden in regards to Benghazi. She says the context was he was referring to 9/11/01 not the attack in Libya.
Where did 4 people die? The talk in the rose garden was about the 4 dead.
Get real!!
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