Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns - Page 81

Evang.Benincasa · #**801** 10-20-2012, 05:35 AM

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NÃ£o

Looking to swim out to the Azores?

houston · #**802** 10-20-2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Looking to swim out to the Azores?

Sure.

Hizzangel · #**803** 10-20-2012, 06:36 AM

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See this is the whole problem. The board, the district no one is informing the congregation of any accusations, proof or any real information. It's my understanding that Kilgore was preparing to bring TB in and allow him to talk but once the board got wind of it he and hughes were "dismissed". I've heard the board had no desire to bring the district in and wanted to just handle it themselves. I don't know this to be true or not. I don't know if the board has integrity, I don't know if there computers are "clean". I don't know that the district people are honest and their impeccable reputation really doesn't help me because I was under TB who had an impeccable reputation. I still don't know if any of it's true. If things are being handled by honest, spiritual, true men of God why wouldn't their process, accusations and proof be made congregation knowledge. Also I didn't mean to mislead anyone to think I meant "strict" standards and I don't think hard, strict standards are necessarily what I want. I'm just saying we are used to a way that is going to change. In UPCI so much is left up to the pastor so if you get one in there that preaches personal convictions as bible it's going to be tough. I don't know how to have confidence in the men in leadership because if what is being rumored is true TB blew it, if what is being rumored about the men that say TB did all this stuff but if TB didn't then they blew it. I could see how certain allegations and a petition could break a man's heart and cause him to resign thinking the church has turned on him and could feel like he's not wanted so why not just resign. The confidence is likely shattered even if there aren't facts and proof but just the "talk" with hidden agendas attached. I'm not saying this is what happened because again I don't know and have very little confidence that many do. I do know some are on every angle and are convinced they do know and form their advice, outlook and feelings according to what they think they know.
Until solid, straight, down to earth explanations are given and a substantial amount of proof of the allegations against Tb are shown, I don't see how the congregation can ever recover. I know some things aren't easy to hear but we are adults and pay tithes and support the church and hold positions and have such a vested interest in the church I think it's due us to KNOW what happened and how it was handled.

Exactly what I was told about Kilgore and Hughes from someone very close to the situation.

CC1 · #**804** 10-20-2012, 08:16 AM

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Amen, the church congregation has a right to be informed properly of what has happened to their Pastor: a very tight closed meeting of ONLY the current members; no cameras, no recorders, no public-media hype. Yes, there MUST be closure so that the TRUE healing process can take place. You members of TPC need to INSIST on answers from the board!!!

This is exactly what needs to happen. I was a member of a large church where there was an issue with the Asst. Pastor's marriage. I can't remember the exact order of events but I know that the situation was told to the entire church on a Sunday and then it was announced that on the Wednesday service there would be an update. At that Wednesday service the pastor went into more detail about what happened and what was gong on.

I was very pleased with how things were handled since my experience growing up in Pentecost is that saints were always told pretty much nothing in these circumstances. Treated like morons who didn't deserve answers.

Truthseeker · #**805** 10-20-2012, 08:16 AM

Be nice if things were handled in a more biblical way.

houston · #**806** 10-20-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Be nice if things were handled in a more biblical way.

Stoning?

navygoat1998 · #**807** 10-20-2012, 08:45 AM

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Stoning?

Houston thats just funny!

Truthseeker · #**808** 10-20-2012, 08:52 AM

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Stoning?

Only for someone elses sins.

chigayle · #**809** 10-20-2012, 01:01 PM

EXACTLY, what I have been saying. Nothing should be handled this secretive to the members of the congregation. I also know Kilgore and Huges were asked to leave, and the board wanted to handle it themselves. Start asking questions and demand accountability to the congregation. I also know that TB was going to come in and talk to the church. All the accusations of him not being repentant or running, or ignoring the church. Not true. The board didn't want him to talk. Remember the night he resigned...his words....There is alot of things I would like to say, but the board wants to take care of that! He never got a chance. Even if a man fell and slipped, it does NOT negate all that he has lived, preached, taught, counseled, prayed with you, and LOVED the church with everything in him. How quick we forget.

ttpaba · #**810** 10-20-2012, 04:12 PM

There are certain delicate issues with the board. First of the three men is one member of a large family of adult brothers raised by a UPCI missionary. I'm pretty sure that of that family there are at least 5 adult men that are brother/cousins etc... that hold positions in the church, married with wives and children. There are adult female members of the same family that are married to prominent men in the church. My point is that with that one man on the board he potentially has the backing of dozens of immediate family members! Not to mention the "advice" given to him from his UPCI missionary Dad.
Second man is a very quiet, physically handicapped man that is married to a very ummm strong willed, vocal woman that is the mother of one of TPC's most prominent members/preachers that is an MD. MD=DR=Influence=$.
Third is a business man with more than one business and I believe his wife is of the same large family as member number one!
I can see a number of possible again I say POSSIBLE problems with this set up. But not being one to just point out flaws I could see easy resolve to this with a few simple changes. And let me say that large families should not be discounted to hold positions of responsibility just because of their possible dominance in sheer numbers. It's hard enough for my family to figure out how to run the "Christmas get together" so I'm not one to think all family members would or could agree to rally a cause. Ok that said.
Can't the TN District restructure the board? If so why not have a dozen or more men in good standing be placed and every yr or 6 mths rotate two or three off and place two or three new ones? It would be ok to rotate back on if the need arose but with a church this size I bet you wouldn't have to rotate a man back in for a decade. This would keep a certain amount of experience and wisdom in place while bringing in fresh ideas and creative young men that are relevant and current to the younger membership. Surely the TN District can and will do something whether it be my idea or something totally different.