Wondering what 'unbroided' means in the KJV Bible

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by CC1

A lot of people have trouble understanding the culture in which the New Testament was written. The writing style was one of contrast. Those scriptures did not prohibit women from things that make them attractive. They were simply pointing out that outward adornment should not be what makes a woman beautiful. That her true beauty should come from the inside. Freeatlast did a good job in his post of putting these scrptures in context.

Ya, it would be like someone saying "Fathers, don't show love for your kids by how much you buy them, but what you do for them!". This isn't advice not to BUY them 'things', it is just clarifying what is important and what is not. Simple stuff!

I remember people going round and round with RDP (I think that was the posters name) a while back. He seemed to only debate womens issues like hair, jewelry and pastoring. He simply refused to see this simple fact of context and would instead respond with pages of Greek text and translations, much of which was wildly out of context as well.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Ya, it would be like someone saying "Fathers, don't show love for your kids by how much you buy them, but what you do for them!". This isn't advice not to BUY them 'things', it is just clarifying what is important and what is not. Simple stuff!

I remember people going round and round with RDP (I think that was the posters name) a while back. He seemed to only debate womens issues like hair, jewelry and pastoring. He simply refused to see this simple fact of context and would instead respond with pages of Greek text and translations, much of which was wildly out of context as well.

Egg zactly !!

[rebecca-18]

Thank-you all for your replies.

[commonsense]

Good replies......I believe it that way but couldn't have expressed it so well.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Ya, it would be like someone saying "Fathers, don't show love for your kids by how much you buy them, but what you do for them!". This isn't advice not to BUY them 'things', it is just clarifying what is important and what is not. Simple stuff!

I remember people going round and round with RDP (I think that was the posters name) a while back. He seemed to only debate womens issues like hair, jewelry and pastoring. He simply refused to see this simple fact of context and would instead respond with pages of Greek text and translations, much of which was wildly out of context as well.

Actually, his references to the Koine' text were spot-on (esp. since all he did was reference the text itself)....& yes, it is blatantly defiant to the Scriptures for women to braid their hair (I Tim. 2:9), "preach/teach" to men (I Tim. 2:11-15; I Cor. 14:34-35), or wear jewelry (I Tim. 2:9; I Ptr. 3:3; Deut. 7:25; Isaiah 3; etc., etc.).

It is the plain reading of the texts in question & still has not been refuted, nor do I anticipate it will be.

What I "refuse" is to allow folks to twist the Scriptures to where they do not mean what they clearly say (e.g., I Tim. 2:9-15; I Ptr. 3:1-3; Deut. 7:25; etc., etc., etc.).

Personally, I rarely ever log onto this forum & just so happened to see this in passing....So, while I'm sure there will be the usual erasers whipped out (trust me....I've heard it ad nauseum already), I'll likely not even see it (Thank God).

I simply do not care to interact on a forum of "Apostolics" like this....Carry on .

[Truthseeker]

I am glad it doesn't say weaves my wife would be in trouble then.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Barnes
Not with broidered hair - Margin, “plaited.” Females in the East pay much more attention to the hair than is commonly done with us. It is plaited with great care, and arranged in various forms, according to the prevailing fashion, and often ornamented with spangles or with silver wire or tissue interwoven; see the notes on Isa_3:24. The sense here is, that Christian females are not to imitate those of the world in their careful attention to the ornaments of the head. It cannot be supposed that the mere braiding of the hair is forbidden, but only that careful attention to the manner of doing it, and to the ornaments usually worn in it, which characterized worldly females.
Or gold, or pearls - It is not to be supposed that all use of gold or pearls as articles of dress is here forbidden; but the idea is, that the Christian female is not to seek these as the adorning which she desires, or is not to imitate the world in these personal decorations. It may be a difficult question to settle how much ornament is allowable, and when the true line is passed. But though this cannot be settled by any exact rules, since much must depend on age, and on the relative rank in life, and the means which one may possess, yet there is one general rule which is applicable to all, and which might regulate all. It is, that the true line is passed when more is thought of this external adorning, than of the ornament of the heart. Any external decoration which occupies the mind more than the virtues of the heart, and which engrosses the time and attention more, we may be certain is wrong. The apparel should be such as not to attract attention; such as becomes our situation; such as will not be particularly singular; such as shall leave the impression that the heart is not fixed on it. It is a poor ambition to decorate a dying body with gold and pearls. It should not be forgotten that the body thus adorned will soon need other habiliments, and will occupy a position where gold and pearls would be a mockery. When the heart is right; when there is true and supreme love for religion, it is usually not difficult to regulate the subject of dress.

Concisely done:

"It may be a difficult question to settle how much ornament is allowable, and when the true line is passed. But though this cannot be settled by any exact rules, since much must depend on age, and on the relative rank in life, and the means which one may possess, yet there is one general rule which is applicable to all, and which might regulate all. It is, that the true line is passed when more is thought of this external adorning, than of the ornament of the heart."

[houston]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I am glad it doesn't say weaves my wife would be in trouble then.

Oh no you didn't!