Pentecostals Don't Drink The Water in Memphis!

[Jason Shelby]

This is my Uncle, this story is WRONG!! They are saying he laundered drug money by selling cars to Drug Dealers, when he owns a business in Downtown Memphis. He has been in that location for almost 20 years. The Wendy's on the corner sells food to the drug dealers, the Exxon on the corner sells gas, smokes, and beer to the drug dealers, however they are not on the news.

INSTEAD OF BASHING A PENTECOSTAL BROTHER YOU NEED TO BE ON YOUR KNEES IN PRAYER FOR HIM, HIS FAMILY, AND HIS CHURCH. This is a work of the devil, keeping a life long Saint of God, from helping the Kingdom of GOD. He has given, selflessly to the Church and the work of God, world wide.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Jason Shelby

This is my Uncle, this story is WRONG!! They are saying he laundered drug money by selling cars to Drug Dealers, when he owns a business in Downtown Memphis. He has been in that location for almost 20 years. The Wendy's on the corner sells food to the drug dealers, the Exxon on the corner sells gas, smokes, and beer to the drug dealers, however they are not on the news.

INSTEAD OF BASHING A PENTECOSTAL BROTHER YOU NEED TO BE ON YOUR KNEES IN PRAYER FOR HIM, HIS FAMILY, AND HIS CHURCH. This is a work of the devil, keeping a life long Saint of God, from helping the Kingdom of GOD. He has given, selflessly to the Church and the work of God, world wide.

Jason,

The news stories quite clearly say it was more than just drug dealers happening to buy cars from him. The accusation is that the transactions were made using names other than the actual names of the buyers to avoid the reporting law for cash transactions over $10,000. This did not happen just once or twice. Over $2.9 million dollars changed hands this way.

The person I know who is a friend of your uncle is praying that somehow he was oblivious to what was going on and that it was the two employees that were also arrested who are guilty. It does seem a stretch though to think the owner would not realize three million dollars in sales over a few years were shady.

I do hope that your uncle is indeed innocent and you are correct that we need to be praying for him and the situation. If he is guilty I hope the full weight of the law is brought to bear on him but if he is innocent I pray the truth will come out and he will be exonerated.

In the meantime the facts are that he has been arrested and charged as indicated in my initial post. That information is taken from published news stories.

[Jason Shelby]

CCI, Just to make everything clear, my Uncle is Brian Bowman, who was part owner of Pyramid Used Car Sales. Wayne McAlpin Jr., is his brother-in-Law, and part owner of Budget Auto Sales, the other parts of both businesses were owned by the Late Wayne McAlpin, Sr. The Indictment was for One Count of Conspiracy to Launder Money, that they say was known to be proceeds of illiegal drug activity (i.e. from Drug Dealers). They, the Law Enforcement Officials, only have proof this happened once, (i.e. only one count of Conspiracy to Launder Money), the rest of all the treanscations arenjust the LE officials assuming. All of this is coming from two article I have found on the Web, and my personal relationship with my Uncle. The $3,000,000 in transcations, according to the articles was over a period of six years, from both Car Lots, one of which my Uncle has NO Control Over.

You also need to understand what "Indictment" and "Conspiracy" mean.

If you really have a friend that is a friend of My Uncle, you should know that all this sitiuation, is not TRUE.

You should have started this thread with: "Pray for a Pentecostal Brother during this time in his life", instead of Bashing him, and linking him to another so-called scandel.

You can go to HELL just as fast for Gossiping as Money Laundering! Just because the Newspaper and the other Media say it's true don't mean it's FACT!!

Originally Posted by CC1

Jason,

The news stories quite clearly say it was more than just drug dealers happening to buy cars from him. The accusation is that the transactions were made using names other than the actual names of the buyers to avoid the reporting law for cash transactions over $10,000. This did not happen just once or twice. Over $2.9 million dollars changed hands this way.

The person I know who is a friend of your uncle is praying that somehow he was oblivious to what was going on and that it was the two employees that were also arrested who are guilty. It does seem a stretch though to think the owner would not realize three million dollars in sales over a few years were shady.

I do hope that your uncle is indeed innocent and you are correct that we need to be praying for him and the situation. If he is guilty I hope the full weight of the law is brought to bear on him but if he is innocent I pray the truth will come out and he will be exonerated.

In the meantime the facts are that he has been arrested and charged as indicated in my initial post. That information is taken from published news stories.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Maybe this car dealer was under the mindset that as long as he was selling cars to real people, in the name of the actual real person, it didn't matter what the real person he sold the car(s) to actually did with the cars once they left the lot.

Maybe he thought this was an example of the wicked laying up their riches for the righteous.

Prayer is necessary, but so is a good lawyer. This accusation might be very difficult to prove in court.

I am indulging my own speculations.


If this car dealer sold cars to the real people who can be positively identified by the real names used, how can he be held legally liable for what the real people did with their cars?

It is not against the law to sell a car to someone with the knowledge that the buyer is going to give that car to someone else.

Facilitating the giving of gifts is not money laundering.



The above is typed from the point of view of a person who believes that heaven and hell will be decided on a few technicalities.

Even if he knowingly facilitated this kind of "gift giving", he may be unethical, but is he a law breaker?

Does the law hold drug needle makers and bong makers liable for what their end users do with the needles and bongs?


Capitalism rarely involes a sense of ethics that would hold the manufacturer or even seller of goods responsible for the actions of the end user.

[Jason Shelby]

Jermyn, that is my Uncle's thoughts they are just people, with I.D.s saying their names are ________. He has been doing business in the Downtown Memphis area for twenty years. The Law told him, after this came out, that to sell a car to someone who is go to give it to someone else is a crime. He has sold thousands, up on thousands of cars in Memphis over the last twenty years, and less than 1% are seized annually in relation to drug activity. You can't regulate what people do with the cars you sell them.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Maybe this car dealer was under the mindset that as long as he was selling cars to real people, in the name of the actual real person, it didn't matter what the real person he sold the car(s) to actually did with the cars once they left the lot.

Maybe he thought this was an example of the wicked laying up their riches for the righteous.

Prayer is necessary, but so is a good lawyer. This accusation might be very difficult to prove in court.

I am indulging my own speculations.


If this car dealer sold cars to the real people who can be positively identified by the real names used, how can he be held legally liable for what the real people did with their cars?

It is not against the law to buy a car for someone with the knowledge that they are going to give that car to someone else.

Facilitating the giving of gifts is not money laundering.



The above is typed from the point of view of a person who believes that heaven and hell will be decided on a few technicalities.

If he knowingly facilitated this "gift giving", he may be unethical, but is he a law breaker?

What does the law have to say about his actions?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Maybe this car dealer was under the mindset that as long as he was selling cars to real people, in the name of the actual real person, it didn't matter what the real person he sold the car(s) to actually did with the cars once they left the lot.

Maybe he thought this was an example of the wicked laying up their riches for the righteous.

Prayer is necessary, but so is a good lawyer. This accusation might be very difficult to prove in court.

I am indulging my own speculations.


If this car dealer sold cars to the real people who can be positively identified by the real names used, how can he be held legally liable for what the real people did with their cars?

It is not against the law to sell a car to someone with the knowledge that the buyer is going to give that car to someone else.

Facilitating the giving of gifts is not money laundering.



The above is typed from the point of view of a person who believes that heaven and hell will be decided on a few technicalities.

Even if he knowingly facilitated this kind of "gift giving", he may be unethical, but is he a law breaker?

Does the law hold drug needle makers and bong makers liable for what their end users do with the needles and bongs?


Capitalism rarely involes a sense of ethics that would hold the manufacturer or even seller of goods responsible for the actions of the end user.

German, hard to believe I know but you are totally missing the point. The issue is not what people did with the cars once they left the lot. The indictment is accusing them of false paperwork with the vehicles titled in names other than the actual people who bought them. Do a google search of the news stories and you will have a better understanding of the situation.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by CC1

German, hard to believe I know but you are totally missing the point. The issue is not what people did with the cars once they left the lot. The indictment is accusing them of false paperwork with the vehicles titled in names other than the actual people who bought them. Do a google search of the news stories and you will have a better understanding of the situation.

Oh. Oh wow.

Jason, it is probably best that you don't comment on this publicly any further. Your uncle is in serious trouble.

You had better pray for him and get the best lawyer your family can buy.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Maybe this car dealer was under the mindset that as long as he was selling cars to real people, in the name of the actual real person, it didn't matter what the real person he sold the car(s) to actually did with the cars once they left the lot.

Maybe he thought this was an example of the wicked laying up their riches for the righteous.

Prayer is necessary, but so is a good lawyer. This accusation might be very difficult to prove in court.

I am indulging my own speculations.


If this car dealer sold cars to the real people who can be positively identified by the real names used, how can he be held legally liable for what the real people did with their cars?

It is not against the law to sell a car to someone with the knowledge that the buyer is going to give that car to someone else.

Facilitating the giving of gifts is not money laundering.



The above is typed from the point of view of a person who believes that heaven and hell will be decided on a few technicalities.

Even if he knowingly facilitated this kind of "gift giving", he may be unethical, but is he a law breaker?

Does the law hold drug needle makers and bong makers liable for what their end users do with the needles and bongs?


Capitalism rarely involes a sense of ethics that would hold the manufacturer or even seller of goods responsible for the actions of the end user.

Prayers for your uncle! A good and godly reputation can be ruined by a single false accusation. I hope for his sake, he is only guilty by association.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

Prayers for your uncle! A good and godly reputation can be ruined by a single false accusation. I hope for his sake, he is only guilty by association.

Not my uncle, Jason Shelby's uncle.

[Monterrey]

Well, you know what they say about used car salesmen, almost as bad as democrats!


























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