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11-07-2012, 08:23 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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We will know more once the real breakdowns come out, but do you really think Newt would have done better?
Was GOP turnout down from 08? Would Newt have somehow pulled more independants to him than Mitt did? I don't see it happening.
Many voices last night said that Obama was successful in turning women against Romney due to abortion and planned parenthood. I heard it with my own ears from my apparently stupid as a rock sister who said "Romney wanted to take women back to the days before they could vote or anything". You really think Newt, who dumped his diseased wife, would have done better with women?
I think the sad reality of this election is as I said: America is no longer center right. We let liberalism infect us for too long, let too many illegals in to vote and let homosexuality become too acceptable and mainstream and now thsoe sickening principles have spread to a majority of the electorate. I see little hope. Only in repentance as a nation or the judgment of God.
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Why don't you look at the reality of what really happened and stop lying to yourself. He was a notorious flip-flopper and no one was certain of his plans. When it comes time to vote, Americans do not like uncertainty in a candidate.
And as much as we don't like Obama, at least he says what he is going to do.
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11-07-2012, 08:29 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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I agree Newt had a much better chance of winning because we dont want a watered down version liberalism
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They threw him under the bus and deserved what they got. Newt was cleared of every false ethic violation. We don't need a progressive Republican in the WH. Mitt had already passed policies in his state that Obama was being held back on. That should have raised some red flags, but people were too intent on winning and not realizing what that could have done to our party. Eight years of a progressive president - where would we be after those 8 years on conservative policy? That is more scary than Obama winning, IMO.
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11-07-2012, 08:30 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Why don't you look at the reality of what really happened and stop lying to yourself. He was a notorious flip-flopper and no one was certain of his plans. When it comes time to vote, Americans do not like uncertainty in a candidate.
And as much as we don't like Obama, at least he says what he is going to do.
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Seriously? You believe BO says what he is going to do? Like he said he would not raise taxes on the middle class and he did.
He said he would have a transparent presidency and he has the least transparent. He is just as much if not more than all the other politicians.
He said the healthcare was not a tax and it is.
He said he would post for everyone to see before he passed a law and didn't even give the congress time to read the 1000 page manual and asked the idiots to pass without reading.
And you quote BO as being trustworthy?
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11-07-2012, 08:32 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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After all of Rush Limbaugh's fear mongering, I heard a clip of him saying, "We will survive four more years of Obama." I wanted to slap his face for putting so much fear into people's lives. Oh, well, I guess they could change the station. I haven't listened to Sean Hannity in over a year. So tired of the fear mongering.
We are always in the hands of a good and great God. We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.
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11-07-2012, 08:33 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
They threw him under the bus and deserved what they got. Newt was cleared of every false ethic violation. We don't need a progressive Republican in the WH. Mitt had already passed policies in his state that Obama was being held back on. That should have raised some red flags, but people were too intent on winning and not realizing what that could have done to our party. Eight years of a progressive president - where would we be after those 8 years on conservative policy? That is more scary than Obama winning, IMO.
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I don't see that. You are a very smart and savvy political person and maybe seeing something I don't but what BO is in my opinion is to destroy America. I do not believe for one minute he is an American and can't for the life of me figure out why congress is letting him have carter blanc writing EO like a dictator.
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11-07-2012, 08:33 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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That's a bunch of malarkey. It was WHO the GOP wanted to focus all of their attention on. You could see that playing out in the media, guided by Brit Hume. Plain as the nose on your face. Newt proved what the people wanted in SC. The GOP surrounded Romney and took Newt down. You know as well as I do that they can talk up Tom, Dick or Harry, and one of them would win. That's the game. Some of us aren't playing anymore. They can lose until the cows come home. We took our toys and went home. 
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I stand by what I said about Newt not having broad appeal and as I stated during the primaries I will NEVER support a candidate for President with his marriage history, no matter how brilliant they are or how much I like them.
I hold the office of President in too high regard for someone who is a serial adulterer to hold it.
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11-07-2012, 08:36 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
After all of Rush Limbaugh's fear mongering, I heard a clip of him saying, "We will survive four more years of Obama." I wanted to slap his face for putting so much fear into people's lives. Oh, well, I guess they could change the station. I haven't listened to Sean Hannity in over a year. So tired of the fear mongering.
We are always in the hands of a good and great God. We have nothing to fear, but fear itself.
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PO it is not Rush or Hannity giving me fear, I think they are telling the truth, my fear is in the many prophecies given at out church the last couple of years trouble is coming and put your trust in Him.
So I was not surprised with the outcome of the election but very disappointed and depressed to see America going where she is going.
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11-07-2012, 08:44 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
Our country has voted their true hearts. People's hearts have turned so far from God, that they are no longer voting on principles, they are voting on emotion. This is a sad day in one sense for our country, yet, on the other hand, I see the church under persecution possibly in the days to come, and perhaps a rebirth of faith, and so maybe a new day for the church is on its way.
For, when all else fails.... Jesus is still the only answer.
I believe our country is coming to a time where people will be desperately crying out for the Lord's help.... and so I believe BO is our president because it is part of God's plan.
If we believe that the Lord does all things well... I believe the election results spoke of where our country is... voting in gay marriage, and more abortion.... with people's hearts turned far away from biblical principles..... YES, we will see tough days ahead, but Christ is still Lord of all... and our hope is in HIM, and no man-made government figurehead.
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11-07-2012, 08:48 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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Originally Posted by Esther
Seriously? You believe BO says what he is going to do? Like he said he would not raise taxes on the middle class and he did.
He said he would have a transparent presidency and he has the least transparent. He is just as much if not more than all the other politicians.
He said the healthcare was not a tax and it is.
He said he would post for everyone to see before he passed a law and didn't even give the congress time to read the 1000 page manual and asked the idiots to pass without reading.
And you quote BO as being trustworthy?
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The Republicans haven't been transparent either. You need to study some of the policies that the Republicans have put in place that are causing us to lose our freedoms. Both parties are destroying our country.
And I don't present BO as trustworthy, but he promised healthcare reform, DADT, equal pay for women. Whether we like him or not, these were some of the things he promised his supporters he would accomplish.
Romney stepped into the healthcare issue contradicting himself that the mandate in MA was a fee. Later He flip-flops, in an interview, and called it a tax. So, the reality is that we didn't have a candidate to challenge Obama that made the people trust or feel comfortable.
There isn't any point in crying over spilled milk, it's done.
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11-07-2012, 08:50 AM
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Re: ***Election Day 2012: The Day Of Decision***
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Our country has voted their true hearts. People's hearts have turned so far from God, that they are no longer voting on principles, they are voting on emotion. This is a sad day in one sense for our country, yet, on the other hand, I see the church under persecution possibly in the days to come, and perhaps a rebirth of faith, and so maybe a new day for the church is on its way.
For, when all else fails.... Jesus is still the only answer.
I believe our country is coming to a time where people will be desperately crying out for the Lord's help.... and so I believe BO is our president because it is part of God's plan.
If we believe that the Lord does all things well... I believe the election results spoke of where our country is... voting in gay marriage, and more abortion.... with people's hearts turned far away from biblical principles..... YES, we will see tough days ahead, but Christ is still Lord of all... and our hope is in HIM, and no man-made government figurehead.
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Don't forget, more legalization of marijuana too...
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